Ange Postecoglou

Entitled fans dont bother me compared to the direction the club appears to be heading if im being honest but everyone to their own i suppose .

 

Did we complain about the board when Rodgers was here?
Yes we did.
Because we lived through it and as great as the success was and will live in our memories for ever, this board still during that time cheaped out at every chance it got.
To the point they drove a wedge between him and the board and then him and the fans.


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Why do we need to care or compare ourselves to the Huns?

The ten was stopped, if fans don't understand what that means to us, then (without being rude) you need to really get back to understanding what this support is about. Getting the ten was so much more than just beating the Huns, it would have beat our own record first and fore most.

If it's not the worry about spending a couple million due to "admin" it's comparing ourselves to the Huns and "ACH it's no as bad as them" nonsense.

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And it’s what got us in this mess in the first place IMO, we were happy just being better rather than being the best that we could be.

 

The Aussie fans don't seem to be able to understand this They just come out with Ange is amazing & you will see after he gets time blah blah blah.

Celtic fans are behind Ange but he won't get time & the board will shaft him at every turn. I seen a couple also say that Ange will jump if he doesn't get his way as if it's a badge of honour They don't realise that Ange needs our club just as much as we need him as it's his way into European football.

I'm really hoping Ange gets the players he has asked for that suit his system rather than players that have been on our radar for the last couple of seasons. Going by the links so far it's seems it's the later

 

Exactly as well.
Too many accepted the success without question, those who spoke out about the * generally were shot down, but it's happened long before Rodgers and his success.

Celtic fans are well versed in this club and this board over the years completely shafting us and doing the bare minimum.

I can totally get needing to show solidarity, support etc to the manager as he is new in the door and the mess isn't his doing, but he's gonna get caught in the cross fire at times.
So far that's not happened, because no one is remotely accusing him of any major issues yet.

But none of us can surely deny that even still, it's cheap options after cheap options here.
Keeping on the old staff, no matter how much Ange wants to tell us he is assessing it all, is the cheap option.
They should never have remained here for Ange to inherit.

And I shouldn't have to do this, but I'll day it again, this isn't Ange fault.
But he is accepting it, so in time if/when this goes * up (because guess what Aussie lads, we've all been here before with this club) he will take some flack for accepting this stuff.


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Can I also add,
Had Ange came in to this club and we had a proper footballing structure, with head recruitment and all the staff needed, had physios and all their staff, director of football, etc etc..
Had he came in to the club with all that in place, we would all be behind Ange not bringing in his own players and many of his own staff ( all managers should still be able to bring at least two of their own staff in though, regardless) as we would have faith in this club operating as a football club.

But as per, we don't have any of that and Ange is just a continuation of the same * we've been served up.

So sorry Aussie lads, say what you want about Ange, but he's on a hiding to nothing as it stands. The same as Rodgers was.

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And another belter of a post.

Take ma like right on that bad boy ya *.

 

I remember when Rodger signed. I said finally a manager that has the board by the balls as no way would he sign a contract without getting everything he wanted in the contract. The problem was that Lawwell renegaded on most of that stuff & that seems to be why Rodgers couldn't work here anymore. I understand he was probably already going to leave as 3 years at a club is a lot these days & he would be looking for his way back to the EPL. Before Rodgers we had yes men galore under Lawwell & that's the way he liked it. Hope this isn't the same with McKay & Ange.

 

I get what you’re saying to an extent, but this is a fans forum for people to air concerns. It’s entirely plausible that people will come on when the club is going through times of crisis to give their opinion or have a rant or whatever.

Typing out ‘Yaaasssss’ in a match thread when we score just isn’t for everyone.

Ultimately, even during the years when we were winning trebles, many supporters had genuine concerns about the way club was being ran.

They were quite often dismissed or even ridiculed for being negative, but negativity is less annoying than blind optimism for me.

 

We only really had one, Lenny left the first time round arguing with the board over transfers, Mowbray got what he wanted (outspent everyone in Britain in the January market), Gordon Strachan was a nippy wee * who mostly agreed with what he was needing to do at the club but pushed for more ambition getting in the likes of Hesselink and Gravesen on massive wages. MON was MON and could do no wrong.

We had Ronny who felt he was lucky to be here.

 

Again, agree.
Under Rodgers many of us had that same thought/hope, only to see a guy like Rodgers batter his head against a wall in dealing with this board.
Lawwell is out, yay.
Dom is in, good he talks well.
But the signs are still the same, it's never been just one man, it seems to be the whole lot of them.


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Craig Moore almost laughed off the claim by Tony Rallis that Ange can't choose his own backroom staff.

Also says he has spoken to Ange a few times.

 

I don't agree with Strachan atall mate. He was a yes man & didn't even want Gravesen. So Strachan Lenny twice & Ronny.

Is it going to be the same for Ange as Ronny thinking he is lucky to be here?

 

Time will tell whether what he said with regards them being on trial is true but the point still remains he has came in on his own with nobody he 'trusts'. I would like to think he will bring in one of his own guys. The board have forced Collins and Kennedy on Ronny then Kennedy was still here under Rodgers albeit he liked him then last year Kennedy and Strachan (Our ex managers son) was forced upon Lennon so there is 2 sides to the coin

 

Strachan agreed with what he needed to do but also pushed the club to back him. He ended up spending more than MON and having a higher wage bill, but he backed the club to do it within its means by the success he’d brought on the pitch.

Lenny definitely wasn’t a yes man first time round, 2nd he was. First time they wanted to bring in a ‘mentor’ for him. He told them * that or he’d not accept, it’s why it took him so long to accept the job and he eventually left because they wouldn’t back him.

Ange strikes me as a different sort of character.

 

Apparently that’s what he’s done previously as well though which makes me feel a bit better

 

I hope you're right about Ange, I really do.

But your point about Lennon is worrying. Lennon wasn't a Yes man, it wasn't his character, but a few years in the wilderness and he became arguably the worst Yes man we've ever seen, still to this day praising the guys he told to * off the first time round.

That's my worry with Ange. His character could be like Lennon's was, but the position he's found himself in his career could see him accepting many things that should be getting rejected.

I think too many people (not you) are underestimating just how difficult our board are. We're talking about a board that no decent manager in football wants to work with. Years of previous bullshit just forgotten by the support each summer. It really is depressing.

 

Spoke at his first press conference about how desperately we needed new players.

Weeks later and all we’ve signed is a player with about 15/20 senior games under his belt from Sheffield Wednesday.

Shambles

 

Aye but I still feel Kennedy and Strachan should be gone it's not a rebuild if we're only changing 1 member of the coaching staff