Leigh Griffiths

Honestly Lennon's lack of standards when it comes to fitness means I'd never believe a word he has to say on the issue, half the squad were blowing out their * by the sixty minute mark in games and he talked as if there was nothing he could do about it, like making sure the team is training properly isn't part of a managers job. He never accepted any responsibility while he was here, he's not going to admit he was ever in the wrong now.

That's not to say I give griffiths a free pass, players still have to take some responsibility themselves outside of training, but lennon is full of *.

 

Why would they do that, we've got a new manager in, trying to make a fresh start after the shambles of last season, it suits them to wheel him out to try and keep the negativity around us alive and kicking.

 

Natural ability and what you end up with are two very different things, don't think for a minute I am comparing the two.... this * has wasted so much talent.

 

Just heard everything Lennon said on Griffiths..

Isn't a single thing I disagree with him on this waster..

Spot on on everything
Condition terrible
His pace I've mentioned time and time again has gone
Attitudes woeful
Isn't a big game/level player and won't get back to his peak day's..

Rich coming from another * in Lennon, but he is right on this clown..

Will get a new deal but. Lol..

 

* wow

Without doubt the worst footballing opinion I’ve ever read on here.

 

It really isn't.

We signed Henrik for absolute * buttons, he wasn't a big name outwith our reach, the * worked throughout his whole career to get where he got too....lots of ability but lots and lots of hard work made him the * he is.

Some of you * think he just turned up with a wand, that wasn't the case. He got better and better and better....that was down to him.

Griffiths I would say had all the tools to be a special player, too good for us, but his attitude and dedication was the exact opposite.

Ones a special person with loads of talent, ones an absolute waster with loads of talent.

 

Larsson was world class, Griffiths isn't. Their natural abilities are worlds apart. We've had several players more talented than Griffiths, since Larsson.

 

Love you mate but Larsson wasn't a relative unknown when he signed. He was banging them in at World Cups years prior.

 

Again, read what I'm saying, you can have all the talent in the world, and I think Griffiths has a special talent....but it all means * all unless you work 100% on it.

I know you would have followed Henkes career, he became world class due to his work and dedication over time.

Not a soul, including him will ever know how good Griffiths could have been because he is a horrible lazy *.

 

Totally but if he was that big a thing we wouldn’t have got him for 650k.

Listen, this isn't about Larsson and what he was or is, it's about what 100% dedication does....without that talent is useless.

Anyone who watched him seen him get better every year, that's not a fluke.

As Gary Player said, the more I practice the luckier I get.

My point, and I stand by it...Griffiths had so much talent that will never be fulfilled.

edit...love you too

 

The only reason we got him for that fee was because Jansen knew of the clause from when he had been at Feyenoord; it wasn't public knowledge.

Larsson got better like a fine wine but he was fantastic within a few weeks of finding his feet.

Griffiths has a wand of a left foot, maybe even better than Thompson's but his overall ability isn't great. He's got a poor first touch and rarely beats a guy standing him up square on.

He's a poacher that plays on the shoulder and has an instinctive knack of being where the ball breaks but he's not a guy I'd consider blessed with bags of technical ability.

 

Larsson was nowhere near the player he became during his time at Celtic. Some players are always improving, Larsson was definitely a player that constantly improved his game, fitness the full package. He thrived under the pressure of a big club and the expectations of the fans.

 

It probably took me a couple of years to really appreciate him, mainly because the Jansen year he wasn't our main striker, probably after the leg break I probably started to see him * like.
Agree the Jansen thing was a factor, but if he was such a hot commodity I still don't think we would have had a sniff....I'm so glad we did.
The thing with Griffiths, I think in his peak season his finishing was sensational, technique from dead balls are top notch, but he lived on that one season without working on the things you have highlighted....and therein lies the crucial factor between the great and the also runs.
It's a silly scenario, but his talent with Henriks attitude....would have been potentially top class

 

I know what you're saying, but I don't think Henrik and Griffiths' base level of talent is close.

 

Maybe I went too far , but you get my general gist.

 

He did improve but I wouldn't say he was "nowhere near the player", he was instantly our most dangerous player on signing. Ended up our top scorer.

For anyone needing their memory jogged, check some of his interplay, goals and assists in this video.

 

What we also need to remember was that Wim, didn't play him or see him as his main natural striker either.
Like Thierry Henry, that's something he worked on, leading a line instead of link up and interplay....he had it all, and it was all down to learning and working.

I'll be honest and this might blow my "reputation" out of the water. I didn't rate him at all when he signed.

Got to disagree though and say that during his time with us he went up several levels.

 

I remember it well he was a good player when he came but he wasn't the level he became when he left us. I don't know why anyone would contest that.

He evolved into a world class player that made an impact at Man Utd and Barcelona even when he was older.

He also improved as our team improved and he started to have better players around him. He was a good player when he first came but his football intelligence and his finishing improved so much over the period.