Ange Postecoglou

Well put.


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You're entitled to that opinion and you're right, I'm being unfair. The reason I am asking the question is simply to point out why these people are so disappointed with this potential appointment (unrealistically high expectations like Rafa, Marsch etc etc). I'm not actually looking for them to do the board's job as you say.

Some people are expecting literally elite level managers from the continent. It's then not hard to see why there's so much disappointment around Ange.

People want a name they recognise, but they also want the board to find a proper manager who they themselves don't have the footballing knowledge (understandably) to suggest. It's impossible to be satisfied.

 

New GK
New RB Jullien (C) New CB New LB
Soro Turnbull
Rogic
Karamoko Shved
Eddy
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Exciting potential team

 

Among anything else no matter who is appointed, this is it. We are being failed on a frightening scale, whether or not it is Ange or someone else is appointed, the people in charge of our club doing the big jobs are failing massively and they need held accountable.

 

You're missing the point the vast majority of us were happy with Howe. Now 3 months down the line after it being essentially widely acknowledged as a done deal it turns out it was nowhere near. The only way the board will get people back on side would be to get a big name but instead we're going for a guy nobody has ever heard of who has a connection to Lawwell it's a panic move as all the eggs were in the one basket.


Also just seen this on twitter

A few years ago Australia moved federations from Oceania to Asia thus avoiding play offs with a team from South America. It was accepted at the time that this made Australia's WC qualification much easier. Since they switched the have qualified for 3 World Cups in a row (2010,2014 and 2018). Prior to the switch Australia made one World cup in 1974

 

I think it's more to do with it coming on the back of the failed Howe deal, how that unfolded around the ST campaign, then the sudden "advanced talks" with seemingly Ange.

It's went from a manager at the level we expect, to one that is most certainly a project.

Most was on board with Maresca, because the theory was the entire restructure as well.
But with so much negativity and this board proving yet again they are being tight and cheap, it is likely to be Ange without the restructure.

It's a combination of that (for me) in why I aint exactly excited by this prospect.

Drop levels from Howe and likely not to support the guy properly either.



I've no doubt, from the very very little I know, that he will come in with a better approach to football than Lennon and Kennedy, more likely to be in the style of Rodgers and Deila in wanting the players to be pro-athletes and being a better motivator, educator etc. But it is extremely rushed, cheap, last minute and second choice....3rd choice probably after Maresca went to Italy.

More to do with the disdain to the board and the obvious lesser option they are happy to go for, rather than chase someone again of the calibre of Howe.

 

The problem is our club have been run extremely poorly over the last year and the fans have been badly let down. The custodians of the club have been found lacking and have made a series of poor decisions.

They tend to look for managers that do as they are told and accept interference. Ange Postecoglou is a unknown quantity to the support but many fear he's being installed as another yes man like Neil Lennon and Ronny Deila.

 

This is utter nonsense.

I don't have the inside knowledge of being able to say off the cuff what managers are currently unavailable.

Does that mean to say I don't have any right to critique the possible signing of a complete unknown with literally zero credentials befitting the size of a club like Celtic?

 

Howe is at the absolute extreme end of the type of manager we can attract in terms of prestige. When that fell through, we weren't going to get anyone with a "name" unless that name was the only thing that qualified them for the position in the first place i.e. Keane.

I share your distaste for the board and how they have acted over the past year especially. However, the past is the past and we are now up * creek and this guy appears to me to be pretty much the best we can hope for.

 

What are you talking about? I literally just said that I don't expect people to name the actual manager we should go for.

The exercise of asking people who they think we should get instead is to hear the ridiculous suggestions a la Marsch/Benitez. If you are suggesting these kinds of people it's not difficult to see why Ange is a major disappointment. People need to tempter their expectations big time. That's my point.

 

You don't know in the same way I don't know that you have passed every name mentioned off as being unrealistic and even made up lies about Slavia as it didn't fit your argument.

 

I'm expecting the club to go after a serious manager with at least decent credentials in European fitba.

You talk about tempering expectations? We've spent 3 months waiting for Howe, only for that to fall through and as it appears we are being landed with a * 55 year old guy who has never managed in Europe.

I'm not expecting the earth, but this is just * disgraceful.

 

With any luck this Ange can speak Greek. Let Barkas know he's the goalkeeper and he is meant to stop the ball going in the net

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That Celtic Fans TV just put it quite well.

Ange is getting a coup here not Celtic

 

You're either disingenuous or mentally challenged. I made a mistake and apologised for it. I don't even know why I'm engaging with you. The people you suggested earlier should've had you laughed off the forum. I chose to respectfully tell you gently that they were unrealistic.

 

We're never going to get top tier appointments but we're interviewing guys that haven't held a managerial job in over a decade.

There's a massive area in between that we should be able to operate in. Salzburg had a similar level of revenue as us a few years back.

Why is it that they can find exciting, progressive, managerial appointments while we are always scraping the barrel with guys that would literally never be considered for the likes of an Ajax/Benfica/Sporting Lisbon/Salzburg type job?

Why is it also that we can't compete for managers of an EPL/'Atlantic League' standard but our CEO salary blows all of those clubs out of the water?

Ambitious but only when it's beneficial to the PLC.

 

Your * bananas.

 

You sound gullible as * in all honesty.

 

I think this is one of the things that interests him, he’s known for taking struggling sides and rebuilding them. He’s out to make his mark on the world stage, Celtic is a club that can either make him a club legend by having a distinguished career here or a bigger club to pick him up. He’s not taking a job to fail, that’s career suicide.

Don’t get me wrong he could be a massive failure and I’d hold my hand up and say I was wrong but to be fair every manager appointment has the potential to be one of the three.

 

Lads I think it's 100% certain that if the board or infact any of us were given since last November when it was obvious Lennon was done for we would all of come up with better choices than Big Ange..

The fact is they seemed to put all of their eggs in one basket with Howe and when he said eff this Big Ange was a panic appointment..

It's a panic appointment that is absolutely 100% and that's what the anger is about.. lack of a back up plan and again total incompetence from the board