Neil Lennon

We weren’t criticised for Bolingoli, though.

Bolingoli was - correctly - torn to shreds very publicly. Celtic football club were not criticised.

Christie and Tierney play in different countries, each with their own public health guidelines.

I really feel as though people are seeing what they want to see in Sturgeon, and much of that isn’t actually based on anything she’s said or done - which with regards to Celtic is as close to * all as can be.

 

Nah mate, it says they will shut it down if Celtic push this. That’s what you quoted from the iPhone note. That’s just not going to happen.

There’s a huge difference between shutting the game down if footballers can’t follow rules and there are cases which is what happened with Aberdeen and shutting it down if we push the narrative that we’ve been treated unfair.

 

Thats a fair point (awe) but he was away a while and I believe br got a lot of support from the top until his last year , its all down to fans buying into the project and money generated from this going back into it .

 

I cannot believe some of our own support. I listened to BBC Radio Scotland this morning and it was attack after attack on our club from people who just don't like us. People need to remember Celtic is a tiny minority within Scotland. The hatred coming out from some callers is nothing to do with Dubai and Neil Lennon's comments. This stuff is engrained in them.

 

I've already said in other posts he can't continue , although that's now down to fans wont alow him to continue and it would keep the support fragmented.

 

Indeed we seem to, because there’s absolutely no way I could describe the tepid response she gave when asked about us as ‘jumping in with two feet’.

I see absolutely nothing wrong in a response that was effectively formed in 3 parts:
1) I don’t have all information
2) what I have seen, does raise questions
3) a reminder of what’s expected from ‘elite sportspeople’

Comparing it to something you would see on Loose Women is way, way off the mark imo. She could barely have been more tepid in her response.

 

I totally agree that if there have been changes made when away and goalposts have been moved etc, then that’s not on. Again, we don’t know the full story.

but for me the fact remains that we shouldn’t have went. We wouldn’t be having these conversations. I also totally appreciate that at the time it wasn’t breaking law, but for * sake, given what is going on, you’re not going to convince me that taking a team languishing behind the huns, papped out of Europe numerous times, out the cup etc, during a global pandemic with the threat of full scale lockdown days away in Scotland from the departure date...that it was a good idea. there has to be some understanding of the wider impact, and given the media/ government/whoever else you think has an agenda, the last thing we should be doing is opening ourselves up to potential problems.

Another * up in a season of * ups. But to have Kennedy, lawwell and Lennon all come out with varying messages shows a pretty disjointed and confusing leadership. Which pretty much underlines how poorly we have performed as a team.

 

Really really mixed feeling on this so called tirade. Watching Lennon very passionately defend the club, players and himself is some respects is admirable. I will always be happy to see a Celtic manager snap back at walker too. Walker may have raised good points on this occasion but he takes far to much joy in criticising our club. Would happily never have him in the ground again.

All that being said, like anything in the world, it is about timing and context. Is this the right time for Lennon to come back and go at the press and every man in sight? For me when you take two points from the last two games, no! That is not the point of focus Neil. That's not what we should be talking about and looking to concentrate our focus on ourselves. Not sturgeon, not walker not the media just ourselves, focus on our game Neil.

It also about a lack of understanding for me. If Lennon really understood how the fans felt about his position right now, I think he would have approached the whole thing differently. He hasnt approached it like aan fighting for his job, he has approached it with a very * you attitude. Again it's not the time to set that tone.

 

The club was criticised for Bolingoli even though they knew nothing about it. We were forced to isolate our entire squad over it by the government and call off games.

 

But she couldn't not just say nothing , loves the sound of her own voice .

 

Its in the * media mate go read it

 

If 1. is true for any question posed (irrespective of if it's about Celtic or Covid) then she shouldn't really be answering it, especially when the question is of legal consequence to another individual or organisation.

The implications of her answer in points 2 & 3 are that we've done something wrong, which by her own admission she doesn't know for certain. She's not daft, she knows this.

Here's a quote from Sturgeon after Catherine Calderwood breached the rules that she helped created:

"I’ve said this from this podium before that all of us, including me, will make mistakes in these unprecedented times we are living in. When we do we must be candid about it and learn from it."

Does being candid and learning from a mistake, involve a senior politician publicly blasting you before they've even looked at the full facts?

 

Agreed.

The issue is that we've finally called out Walker but we've chosen to do so when Walker is actually in the right.

Another idiotic decision.

 

Can you direct me to this criticism of the club from Sturgeon?

Again, we were not ‘forced to isolate our entire squad’ we were simply adhering to the rules already in place with regards to close contacts an quarantine.

Our games were rescheduled as a result, and to be frank, we’re lucky they were, because that’s the best possible outcome we could’ve hoped for out of the situation. They could quite easily have pushed us to forfeit those games, or go ahead as scheduled but play the reserves.

 

No it isn’t it’s an iPhone note hahahahahahahaha

 

I think he has approached with controlled anger , when stories are being generated off the back of misinformation, mischief, and downright lies creating a ripple effect among US something has to be done to stop all the nonsense, it must be frustrating as * to hear all the crap and just take it .

 

If protocols are followed one player can't be a close contact to all players. Bolingoli wasn't even tested positive. If he was so dangerous then the Kilmarnock players he was playing against should also have been forced to self isolate.

At that time if you lived with someone that went abroad and had to quarantine you could still leave the house unless they had symptoms.

There is players testing positive within the 196 hours between tests that result in nobody being a close contact. They've been with the whole squad the entire week.

I'm honestly getting * off reading this forum on this topic. I know we are all angry with Lennon, the club and the players, but seeing so many "supporters" going OTT to put the boot in is tough reading.

 

What legal consequences are you referring to? I can’t fathom a single legal consequence Celtic or anyone else will face because Sturgeon said what amounts to ‘we’ll need to look into this’.

It’s simply unrealistic to expect politicians to regret in from commenting on any situation until all facts and context have been established. For me, it’s also unfair to criticise a response that was clearly very neutral, and balanced, simply because she could’ve chosen to give a more political answer.

The implication of her reiterating the guidelines that elite athletes should follow is not that we’ve done something wrong.

 

She was right to question the necessity of the trip, but she also intimated it wasn't for a training purpose on the back of a couple of photos...

Given she and many public figures have broken the rules she should have left it by questioning the necessity of the decision to go. I guess she always speaks her mind and leaves you in no doubt on where she stands which is what she's all about.

 

It's about as accurate of accusing her of never wearing a mask based on that photo showing her not wearing one.