Neil Lennon

I genuinely suspect that if Lenny had quit, some of the same people criticising him for not quitting would be criticising him for quitting mid-season and not taking responsibility for trying to get us out of the mess he created.

To me, when I look at their roles and the responsibilities they are paid for, it just seems clear that Lenny is responsible for the * up on the park this season and the board are responsible for him still being in the job.

 

There’s no point debating with fanboys anyway. By definition you won’t be able to see past Lennon, regardless of how bad he does.

 

Is that supposed to be Deila drunk? The part in a night out I can dance I consider to be the stone cold sober part.

 

Dude, you're not really being fair right now. First you strawmanned him by implying that he was claiming Lenny as a shining beacon of professionalism and then, when he (quite reasonably) pointed out that he didn't say any such thing, you imply (with your use of "so") that he must therefore agree with the opposite claim.

I know you're angry about the situation, mate; but that kind of comment goes nowhere.

 

I think Lennon is more our Walter Smith. Has won domestic leagues and cups, usually because he's had the best players and most money, and has had some notable results in Europe mixed in with several humiliations.

His skills are man management, not coaching. And if he does any tactics at all it's simply formations. There's no great plan beyond that, so in-game management is erratic, with inconsistent outcomes.

 

He literally agreed that he wants Lenny gone a few pages ago.

When did agreeing that Lenny has * up and should be replaced but defending him from abuse equate to being a fanboy?

 

Like I said, either can’t or won’t read posts.

3 pages ago I said he had to go.

You crack on though repeating yourself 10 times a day.

 

Where is the drunk Lennon pictures/videos then that make him fair game to be called a thick fat jakey * then? Because there seems to be an imbalance in how both managers are referred to on here?

 

If he was just some guy brought in then you might have a case.

He’s not though, is he? He’s supposed to be one of us. That’s part of what got him the job both times. He’s had unbelievable support from us his whole career. Some people dislike him (like any manager at any club) but that is dwarfed by the immense support he has received on the whole.

He should be stepping down now. Any real Celtic fan would. Only a fraud like the rat would put such self interest ahead of the club, hence why I now see Lennon as a fraud that’s simply never had a better offer.

I’m not trying to have a go at you but any Celtic fan should be able to understand this. I think you’re too loyal to him but if you put yourself or any other supporter in his position you would step down for the good of the club. You wouldn’t sit and cheerlead for Lawwell and Desmond ffs.

 

Glad you finally see sense mate. My work here is done.

 

I hope you’re gonna be this defensive of the likes of Peter Lawwell...

 

I'm only commenting on the video you posted. I was curious (and disappointed) - bit sad of me really.

No idea who said that about Lennon or why. The only person I made sound like a jakey was me. I've grown up a bit now, though not too much.

No idea why you are having a pop at Ronny either but I'll not distract you from your fun anymore.

 

Why?

Peter Lawwell never stood up to bigotry in this country, never faced it head on and refused to bow to the *.

I have more respect for the war criminal John Reid than I do Lawwell.

Reid has left though, Lennon and Lawwell can follow him as far as I’m concerned. Doesn’t mean I will get as defensive about Lawwell as I would Lennon.

 

I wasn’t having a pop at Deila really. Just pointing out inconsistencies in people’s reactions to similar things and the vitriol Lennon is getting from his own compared to absolutely nothing about Deila at the time.

We all enjoyed that video when it surfaced and rightly so.

If Deila was struggling against the huns when that video surfaced you can be sure the reaction would have been different. Therein lies the problem.

 

You’re a hypocrite then.

If you wouldn’t defend lawwell against personal attacks, yet defend Lennon and a known war criminal, then you best just call it a day...

 

How does that make me a hypocrite?

 

Because it does.

 

There are a number of issues with this line of reasoning.

The first is that you are talking about him staying out of self-interest as if that were a fact. It isn't. None of us actually know his motivations, we're all just reading between the lines here. My reading of it, for example, is quite different from yours.

The second is that you are forgetting why he had "unbelievable support" from us. The way you are framing it to yourself makes it seem like we've shown him immense loyalty in previous years as if it were in some sort of vacuum and we were just unusually virtuous or something. It's no wonder you then feel angry at him. As soon as you recognise why we showed him that support, you start to take into account the loyalty and courage he showed for us.

The third is that you are assuming he can see the situation as clearly as we can. If he can, he's very unusual! Most of us are incredibly bad at judging our own performance and assessing what we have got wrong. That's why feedback from more experienced or senior staff is important in all skilled jobs: for example, teachers are observed and then discuss the results and agree an action plan with more experienced practitioners.

It's the board's responsibility to assess his performance and do the appropriate thing. They are choosing not to do that for their own selfish reasons. Lenny should be replaced, but the appropriate target for anger is the board.

 

I’d personally have a lot more respect for him if he’d walked.

It’s been clear for months he isn’t getting the best out of this group of players and wasn’t the man to turn it around.

To me and many it looks like he’s putting his pay cheque above what’s best for the club we love. I’m not surprised by that one bit tbh, players and managers will look after number one first and foremost, even if they’re ‘die hard Celtic fans’ like Tierney and Lennon.

The sooner he’s no longer the manager the better for the future of our club.

 

Why would Deila be called fat when he wasn’t/isn’t?