Neil Lennon

it was the Scottish Champions vs the 12th placed Scottish team. We were lucky to win. Celtic should be beating them with ease.

 

Tbf totally agree with everything that’s said about Lennon, beating a championship side on penalties after throwing away a2-0 lead and a 3-2 lead not good enough for any Celtic manager
1 thing I would add though is a thought Turnbull had a pretty poor game in the final

 

By that token Lazio should be beating us with ease? Still doesn’t make Robbie * Neilson a better manager than Neil Lennon.

I swear some of you have lost your * minds.

 

He loses 1 more game in the league he's finished. So how is his position tenable??? He's waiting to be sacked. Nobody in their right mind, would have him clawing this back. Our form is brutal. Concede terrible goals, mentally fragile and usage of squad and tactics * also. I don't see how this is good management to run a club like this.

Ibrox gives me the fear. They know they win and its in the bag. They're incentive is the same as us, but our desperation is greater. With our resources we have been grossly mismanaged on and off the park. The quickest fix is a change of management, with a view to building for the future. Do this in conjuction with letting them choose staff for other off field depts.

But get rid of Lennon,Jk and GS. That is a must.

 

‘He beat Lazio.. he beat Barcelona..’

The running joke with Lennon is he’s a * manager that dines out on a couple of miraculous underdog results. Mental that some people will excuse any and all failures by referencing these games.

He’s a * manager that should’ve been sacked months ago. When he does get sacked he won’t work at a high level again. That’s because no decent club will touch him, only Lawwell, and only because he’s a cheap controllable manager that the support will defend to the death because he’s a ‘Celtic man’.

Wake up, we’ve been duped into appointing Robbie Neilson when we should be looking at Brendan Rodgers level, all so one man can maintain his empire and collect a bonus.

 

Yeah - perhaps you're the only sane person here.

 

No, they're both *

 

Dining out on a couple of wins?

Guess I must have imagined the plethora of trophies he has won.

I think I’ll leave you all to your moon howling circle *.

 

Desperation is a powerful motivator. At least I hope so. First we need to win the games in the lead-up to the cesspit game, though. That is not going to be easy.

 

Aye everything going great this season. Embarrassed in Europe? Didny happen. Embarrassed by the Huns? Behind in the league? Clearly just people moon howling.

I suppose we can still win this seasons Scottish cup and you’ll be happy with that.

Let’s face it, Rodgers came in and showed what’s really possible for Celtic in Scotland with a competent manager. Lennon has fallen far short of that and the longer he is here the further we will fall. He is not good enough, but he’s a Celtic man so you keep those specs on.

 

Games against Barca or Lazio are the only ones that Lennon is good at. When we don't have to control the game but can sit in behind and defend. Although recently he even lost that his last ability. Now we're * defensively too. And if you haven't realised it yet, we're playing in a league where those kind of games are quite rare. He could do alright at a team like Livingston. But for us he will always underachive. Like he did repeatedly against European teams with a tenth of our budget. And don't even try it with that treble argument. Remember last years League Cup final? We can thank Forest for that, it's not Lennon's achievement.

 

Anyone could've won a couple of trebles with Deila's side. I dare say Robbie Neilson could've kept them playing to that standard even longer.

 

Well we don’t have to consider winning the CL with Lennon in charge. In fact, it’s extremely unlikely we’ll even get back to the group stage with him in the dugout.

And now you’re making things up, as usual. At no point did I say anything about failing to take any positives from winning a quadruple treble.

“Online campaign” haha. I never wanted him in charge and it’s now pretty clear to see why. Get your head out his * for * sake. I’m assuming you’re a grown man and you have some sort of obsession with a guy you’ve most likely never met and never will meet.

You’re like a teenage lassie with a crush on Justin Bieber. Don’t take everything so personally.

 

I genuinely didn’t understand this at all mate. What point are you making?

Deila underachieved because he’s not a great manager. He’s probably around Lennon and Neilson’s level. Rodgers took a team of losers and built them into winners, the next manager just needed to keep that going. It’s far easier to maintain a young winning team than turn losers into multiple treble winners.

 

It's powerful yes....but fraught with dangers. Your essentially all in, nothing to lose. You've tried every everything else and are out of options. Sad indictment of where we are currently.

 

If we play like that, then I think we will do much better than the 0-2 game. Question is: how much do the players want to rectify that horrible result?

 

On the Lennon/Neilson argument. It’s not ridiculous to compare them.

Neilson absolutely dominated the Scottish Championship in his first season with Hearts, finishing 21 points ahead of Hibs and 24 ahead of the huns. They then finished third in the Premiership the next season.

Lennon won the Championship with Hibs in his first season, in a weaker division, with 20 fewer points than Neilson’s Hearts got. He then took them to fourth in the Premiership.

Both have had moves down to England that never worked out. Obviously the big difference is Lennon has been given the job at Celtic twice, whereas Neilson hasn’t had a job of that magnitude. So it’s impossible to say how well he’d do.

Both, to me, are probably fairly average managers who can do a decent job in Scottish football but not much more than that.

 

Honestly I think too much is put into stuff like this. That’s not the question at all.

Effort and desperation are nothing without coaching and organisation.

If every player is desperate to win but no one organised for set pieces we will lose.

You can be the most committed player to the cause but at the end of the day if you’re playing the offside trap and Laxalt is 5 yards behind the line, you will lose.

Effort should be applied at the training ground. Effort to properly analyse games and constantly repeat set pieces etc. Effort to coach the players on their tasks for the match. Effort for 90 minutes isn’t effort at all, it’s laziness.

 

Players like Edouard could definitely benefit from feeling desperate. Get that awareness that a big move is miles away unless he starts finishing chances. Christie is in a similar position, but he needs to up his general work rate and teamwork.

Desperation saves from Bain would do us a world of good on the 2nd.

I know you're right about our tactical woes, but I want us to claw out a W, somehow...

 

You know you’re fitbaw talk a lot of sense and totally agree on the Lennon debate but if someone doesn’t agree with you about maybe Kris Ajer doesn’t make them fannies or * and maybe not everybody as thick skinned as yourself or maybe could be a female or teenager your talking to