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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Pish.
     
  2. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    He was excellent in Milan and would have no issues with his experience being utilised from the start in the Cup Final if that's the way Lenny decides to go.
     
  3. Slaw

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    If your life was depending on Celtic getting the win, would you start him? If so, fair enough you’re entitled to that opinion. I didn’t see the game in Milan but he’s a holding midfielder and we * a 2 goal lead so he can’t have been great.
     
  4. The Phoenix Black Lives Matter

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    If Brown leads us on against Hearts then he'll probably lead us out at Ibrox.

    That'll be complete midfield domination by the Klan and another * easy victory.

    League over. Season over.
     
  5. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    There's games he should play and games he shouldn't, we've been much more dynamic without him no argument there and this will be his last season. But a Cup Final is different has Soro even played at Hampden? Not saying Soro wouldn't shine, but if Lenny wants to start Broonie then I've absolutely no issues with that either, they're all lots of reasons why that may make sense.
     
  6. Sonic Reducer

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    Agree with this apart..... league is over already.
     
  7. Yoshi

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    Sticking with players out of loyalty is one of the reasons how the huns didn't win 10 in a row. We must of won the league that year with one of the lowest points total ever
     
  8. monthehoops1888

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    League isnt over at all,Lenny will bring the 10...Mark my words
     
  9. Slater67

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    Agree with most of that but as much as I like the guys work rate playing klimala up front on his own hasn’t worked for me

    people wanting klimala in as our striker is more to do with how * edouard has been as opposed to how well klimala has did when he’s played
     
  10. Slater67

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    Guarantee if hearts players see Broony s name on the team sheet theyd feel more confident than if they see soro, whether he’s played at hampden or not and despite what brown s did in the past, soro on present form is by far the better option as a defensive midfielder, he’s faster than brown, better tackler than brown, better passer than brown, better positioning sense than brown, doesn’t get booked and give away possession and daft free kicks like brown
    Guys played against the team sitting 2 points on top of la ligue above psg who had everything to play for against us and totally bossed the midfield so don’t think being his first game at hampden V a championship side will faze him in the slightest

    Entitled you’re opinion but if brown plays before soro it’s totally for sentimental reasons rather than picking his best starting 11, which is disrespectful to soro and the fans
     
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  11. RogicHasMagicToes

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    I never said he was solely responsible for every defeat I listed but I could just turn that round & say that he hasn't been solely responsible for every trophy won in his time here that you've listed either. The fact is you said he's rarely let us down which isn't true, that's all I was disputing hence the long list of examples, he's let us down on a number of occasions & in all the defeats I listed he was poor in many of them.

    Also, everything isn't black & white in the way you're trying to portray it, you mention 6 league cups, but look at his performance in the league cup final last season, he was poor, along with the rest of the team excluding Forster, without Forster that day it would have been a humiliating defeat, that day wasn't an example of great leadership from Brown & it's not a great example of why he should still be starting games of such magnitude.

    For me Brown is one of the biggest factors in why we've struggled in so many European games over the last decade, he's had more shockers than good performances in that environment, midfield is where the game is mostly won or lost, for me he's always been too limited a player in possession at that level overall, too slow in possession to keep the play moving at a quick tempo, with the vast majority of his passes sideways or backwards, which has hindered many of our performances & the overall dynamic of the team in Europe. He's had some belting performances too don't get me wrong, I don't know what Brendan done to him in the Invincible season but he was incredible that season, his performance against Man City at home was his best ever European performance for us imo, not only was he constantly winning back possession but he was also getting the ball moved forward at pace straight after it with a high level of accuracy, however, those kind of performances were all too rare from Brown in Europe.

    But I think we're going to have a lot more success going forward in Europe over the next decade without him in midfield. Time will tell on that.
    It's not pish though, he slows the team down, he takes too long to pick a pass & when he does the vast majority of the time it's sideways or backwards, he also struggles to keep up with play for 90 mins like he used to, he's slow to tackles & challenges that he'd get to in the past, makes many late tackles because of his loss in mobility & pace which gives the opposition too many fouls & sometimes in dangerous positions, his ability to close down players & block shots in time has also evaporated from his game hugely.

    As I say, it's just an unnecessary risk to start him in a game of such magnitude, if he gets selected it's solely on sentimentality & not ability, that's not a legitimate reason to select a player, his leadership can still be utilized off the pitch instead of on the pitch as he reaches this point in his career. Lastly, I'd be questioning where his head is at going into this game, knowing that the fans now prefer Soro to him in his position, that's hardly going to inspire him imo, if he knows he's no longer going to be starting league games after the weekend, then it's a dangerous mindset to play him in a game with so much riding on it.

    I say play it safe & stick with Soro ahead of him, at the final whistle it'll be Brown lifting the Quadruple Treble anyway & that's all that matters.
     
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    In a season where I've seen Lenny called all sorts of things I would never have thought possible, this opinion here is still the most surprising one I've seen from a Celtic fan so far this year.
    I literally could not disagree with you more here.
     
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  13. Slater67

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    Funnily enough I remember the 2007 Scottish cup final was a 35 year old Lennon s last game as captain and wee Strachan subbed him in the 65th minute for Caldwell and he stormed up the tunnell with his wee face tripping him, we went onto win the cup so right decision and he managed to come out his wee huff and come out and lift the trophy
     
  14. RogicHasMagicToes

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    Fair enough, but midfield is probably the most important area of the pitch in terms of how the overall performance of the team will go & as to whether the game is won or not, it's my opinion that he's one of the biggest factors as to why we've usually struggled in Europe against so many teams of small, equal or bigger budgets since he signed, you don't agree with that fair enough but it's my opinion. Now obviously he's not the only player in that time to blame imo so please don't get it twisted, I just think he's one of the biggest factors in it.

    The common denominator in many of our European failures & poor performances is Brown in midfield, for me that's no coincidence but if you disagree then as I say fair enough.
     
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  15. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Your perception is admirable :34:
     
  16. HoopswithPride

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    I see the line about no fans was rolled out in the AGM today. And went even further with it saying it has affected us more than most teams in Europe.

    I would take that with a hefty pinch of salt.
     
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  17. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    They'll be quick to point to real Madrid and Barcelona, even stupid enough to point to the two Manchester clubs, but bottom line is this affects everyone.
    The two Milan's, Juventus, at.madrid, Bayern, psg, Lyon, Huns, Chelsea, spurs, Liverpool, Ajax, psv, the two Prague's, midjtyland, Kiev, Donetsk, sporting, benfica, Porto....

    We get the point.
    It's not affecting any of them.
    They are just desperate to blame something, someone, anything but themselves for this mess.

    No fans in the stadium and the lack of the 12th Man to push us on is noticed, but noticed only in Hun games and Europe to be honest. Otherwise the squad is more than capable enough to still win games regardless.
    And most certainly not to have went on the run of 2 in 12 that we may have just got over.

    No excuses for that apart from them looking inwards.


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    I’m not completely against the idea for this game no but I don’t like the idea of him “deserving” it for sentimental reasons.
     
  19. DonnyCelt

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    I can back the team but I cannot back Lennon
     
  20. freitassen

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    I wouldn't play Klimala alone either but rather with a striker partner