Neil Lennon

Whether we win the league or not, this has to be Lennon's last season here.

He’s simply not good enough. We’ve suffered too many humiliations in the cup and in Europe under him in his two spells.

 

Nah, I'd rather Lennon moved on even if we win the league. I'd like a fresh approach and a manager who's more of a coach in terms of developing players.

 

Lenny has to go,for me its getting to the stage where even if we were to somehow get the ten it wold be somewhat tinged with annoyance that lenny has done his best to * things up.

 

* me.

 

I think we've had tunnel vision on the push for 10 for so long, to the detriment of other things and when it's concluded - won or lost - we need to start to have a revamp right across the club.

We need boardroom change and an appetite to embrace Modern football including:

• a total revamp of our academy providing more paths to the first-team for those who merit it
• Appointments made on merit rather than previous links to the club
• Expansions of the analysis and scouting parts of our club that are thread-bare in comparison to European counter-parts
• Managers and Coaching Team appointments made to those who buy into all of the above and have a strong record of embracing it

The club as we see it now is as a result of our leadership. The fact that it's a possibility of us ceding our domestic dominance to a Hun team that started 8 years and spent half of that time in the lower leagues, is testament to how poor that leadership has been.

We should be streets ahead both and off the park but the sad reality is we are neither and there needs to be some accountability for that.

No single individual is responsible for where we are, which is why the sole removal of Lawwell or Lennon won't completely fix our issues. We need root and branch reform.

 

For me this whole “finances” thing irks me, we have one of the best run football clubs in the world in terms of money, Every year we hit profit. Spending money on a world class manager pays itself back sevenfold, if they come in develop the squad youth etc, winning trophies and qualifying for the group stages of the ECL. We * 2-3 million on transfer fees alone for players that are terrible, yet won’t pay a decent wage for a manager that could potentially bring 30 million in ECL money every season would pay itself.

A good manager can make a poor team work, a poor manager just keeps the rot going. Pay and think small you’ll end up with a below par product, spend money to make money.

 

Wouldn’t be tinged in any way for me, nobody I would rather see lift it more tbh. I just don’t think he will.

Would like to see him move on regardless tbh. This whole episode has definitely shone a light on how tenuous the ‘club legend’ tag can be, and how * it can be when it goes wrong.

 

A new ‘board of directors’ should it happen... would offload him anyway...

If we somehow win the league this season it would be the perfect ‘out’ for him. I’d rather he were gone now though.

Bottom line - he’s just not good enough.

 

Agree, maybe being a bit cynical but actually wondering if his thinking on Thursday night was , “ keep getting people telling me about all these fringe players who should be getting a start, * it I’ll put them all in against a top Lille outfit Who have everything to play for , watch us get humped and maybe they’ll start to appreciate why I start guys like brown, Christie Bitton etc” , and it’s had the total opposite effect

This time last year every Celtic fan on here was like “ why does he think Lewis Morgan is good option as our lone striker “, when we all knew he wasn’t good enough to be a Celtic squad player yet he persisted with him which if wasn’t for Forster would have cost us league cup,and we were proved right when he left few months later

Everyone on here been crying out for Turnbull n soro to start since start of the season He’s eventually 3 months later gave soro N Turnbull a start and our best performance of the season

none of us claim to be manager s yet we’ve all saw what our glaringLy obvious problems are 3 months before a so called astute manager , getting things right 3 months to late is not good enough

id also play Ajer further up, guys proven what a decent football player he is when he bursts forward he’s so comfortable on the ball and can split defence s right open

 

Lennon and his backroom staff clearly have to go. Whatever you may think of Rodgers, the club moved massively forward under him - since Lennon came back we have regressed at a massive rate.

What is the point in building a multi million state of the art training facility and having a a manager like Lennon who thinks that reviewing matches via video analysis is not something "we normally do" ?

As long as Lawwell is around and is allowed to interfere as a de facto Director of Football we will always struggle.

I would like to see the club try a proper DoF/Head Coach approach or, failing that, invest in a decent progressive manager who can make the most of the talent in our squad.

However, I fear we will do well enough in our next matches (against bottom 6 teams and a championship team) that they'll keep Lennon for this season.

I'd like to think that, if we lose the league, the board will put some thought into who will replace Lennon and also that Lawwell will step down.

Generally, I find it best to expect the worst decisions from this board + management - at least that way, you're rarely disappointed.

 

The club (and Plc) have been telling us since 6/7 IAR that 10 was NOT on their radar ... it was about one season at a time.

Fans yes! We’ve been building it up since then.... but if we take the club/Plc at their word then maybe they don’t give a monkeys about 10.

This is just another ‘season’ for them, it just happens to be one where there’s a chance to make history.

The fans clearly seem to want it more than the club and definitely more than the players.

sadly... lenny WILL want it as much as the supporters.. but doesn’t have the tactical nouse to make it happen.

 

The board might have been saying that publicly but then again saying anything else would have been slated for being extremely arrogant and presumptuous.

The board did for once give the manager a good transfer budget to spend without any money incoming but that alone doesn't constitute good leadership.

The wisest investment we can make is in our manager and coaching team. Proof of that being the contrast between Deila's last season and the rat's first; limping over the line in the league, humped in Europe and slapped out the cups to an Invincible Treble and competing with Manchester City in the UCL.

I don't think the board see this as another season and I don't subscribe to the conspiracies about them wanting a Hun win to bring back attention to the games.

I think they want it but they've just made some seriously incompetent decisions that have allowed it to be in peril:

• Failure to cast the net wide in the summer of 2019 to get the best manager we could get, having just banked £9m for the rat's exit
• Imposing assistants and coaches on managers
• Failing to understand the importance that a beefed up backroom staff - analysis and scouting - can bring to us
• Failure to find buyers for players that had intimated they wanted to leave so much, that it irked the manager to blurt it out post-Ferencvaros
• Failure to remove Lennon from his post 2-3 months ago when it was clear there had been a big stooshy and it wasn't turning round

 

I can see them selling players in January mate, was the Tierney money in those accounts there?

 

Aye, the Tierney money was in the last accounts and profit was down to £100k due to failing to qualify for the UCL and Covid.

I can see players going out in January too. As much as we would have kicked up like * if Eddie was sold, if the money was reinvested on players that wanted to be here we'd be in a much better position IMO.

There's a reason that David Moss spoke about a 2-year cycle for young players to come to the club, develop then be sold on. It's the sweet spot in terms of keeping them focused and gaining the maximum fee from a sale.

We've broken that cycle and ended up with disengaged players who are now heading into their last 18 months of contract, meaning we will now get less than we would've. It also may make agents less likely to suggest that we're a good destination for promising young players in future. Bad on the park, bad off the park.

 

I know they like going on about the big money they spent on Edouard and Jullien, but if you add up the fees for the players who have failed here then we could easily sign another few with their quality. But that comes back to Lawwell constantly authorising the signing of projects.

 

Bayo and Shved alone will likely cost the club circa £10m, in fees and wages alone if their contracts run to conclusion.

Mental that those footballing decisions can be taken by a CEO and there's zero kickback for it.

 

These new quotes are not filling me with confidence on seeing a renewed Celtic on Sunday. “We are not getting carried away and saying ‘right these players are done, this is new age Celtic’. You have to do it bit by bit.” sounds a lot like “you * can protest all you want Scott Brown will still be starting”

 

I'll be honest here... I have not read Lennon's quotes yet but from what you've quoted and said it sounds nothing like he's saying Brown will start.

What am I missing?