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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. JamesM09

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    Seen a few of these tweets this morning. Oh so predictable. The Blind Faith Brigade always come out around Monday night/Tuesday morning.

    The problem is people want to virtue signal. Some people are desperate to be the one that had 'Blind Faith' and 'bought a ticket even when we lost'. These idiots don't * get it.

    Blind Faith is not a virtue, it is a vice. It is something that is easy to do because doing something constructive is so much more difficult. For example, giving up a season ticket for a year.

    How about you grow up and see the bigger picture? There's * fences outside Celtic Park and mounted police at an empty stadium. Normal guys that turned up to protest are being hounded by the police. The club is spreading lies and exaggerations about loyal supporters.

    How * stupid do you need to be? As if everyone is just angry about losing a few games. That's not the reason people are turning on Celtic for * sake.
     
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  2. wulliebad

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    I remember when ronny was in charge \0/ passing a ball to a team mate who was on the touchline and he misses the pass by maybe....15ft only for the ball to go out for a throw.The play back then was noticeably poor.Go forward a few years and i see the passing against the saints in our last game,more than once we just passed to one of their players and it was normal for us to fail to make more than 2 or 3 passes before losing the ball.I do not accept for one second that these guys are even trying. I wonder if they turn up for the cup final because their medals are at stake and blow hearts away,Or will they use it to insure lenny goes.
     
  3. JamesM09

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    They done it for 18 months. Lennon got worse and more arrogant and the thing collapsed.

    They put their best foot forward for 18 months and Gavin Strachan was their reward.

    For *'s sake we owe these young players better coaching and tactics than that. No wonder they chucked it.
     
  4. joemc

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    Absolutely no embarrassment at all , I've quoted facts not made up pish or hearsay /assumptions that are meant to be taken as gospel .
     
  5. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life

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    No we really do know what happened. There are numerous examples showing how rodgers was and is an utter *. Perhaps the best one was his Danny McGrain story.. for that * rodgers to make that up, while McGrain had to sit and listen to it, was shocking but summed up rodgers perfectly, so lets not attempt to rewrite history now.
     
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  6. Twisty Sack the board Gold Member

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    Yet here you are making up stuff to absolve NL of any blame. No facts there I see ....
     
  7. Jeannie Gold Member Gold Member

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    I am not trying to rewrite history. He let us down big time and all the rest was noise. He was duplicitous of that I have no doubt. But surely even he must have realized the magnitude of what he was doing at the time. How that he would be hated throughout our support for the rest of time. All I'm pointing out is that our board are equally duplicitous and that we will never know the true story. I liked BR when he signed and had complete faith in him until he did what he did and like everyone else I won't get over that but it doesn't detract from the fact that we will never know the truth. I can't believe that Danny McGrain let him get away with that story it was shocking. Did anyone ever ask Danny about it?
     
  8. JamesM09

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    Exactly.

    I don't know why people feel the need to rewrite history all the time. Fair enough if significant evidence comes out, but mostly it's just people forgetting what actually happened. Suppressing bad memories is not healthy.

    No one left Lawwell blameless when Rodgers left. More or less everyone agreed: Lawwell is a * that drives away good managers, but Rodgers is a rat for not waiting until the end of the season. There's no need to rewrite it.

    Some people are even trying to paint Deila as a good manager now, which is baffling.

    In a few years, Lennon will be a great manager again who was * over by the players, or possible even the support.

    It's nonsense.
     
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  9. Breathnach67

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    Of course the players take a large part of the blame, many of them are not pulling their weight. But those who are look aimless, at a loss as to what they are supposed to be doing and that falls on the management team, they are completely inept tactically and by all accounts don’t want to communicate with eachother, I’ve seen the suggestion that Lenny should’ve been allowed to pick his own backroom team and I would have to agree but at that same time, any manager worth their salt can operate with and lay out instructions for any coach he may be working with. The whole club is a an absolute mess from top to bottom and the signs were there this time last year let’s not kid ourselves.

    Edit: the second part of that I’m just venting, it’s not directed at you.
     
  10. King of Kings

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    I think it’s more difficult than we realise.

    I’ve been in jobs where I’ve been fairly well paid, but as a fairly young, ambitious guy, if I don’t feel as though I’m being recognised and most importantly developed - I would quickly lose motivation.

    I would still be there - I would still probably have no issue clocking on for much longer hours than I was contractually obliged to - but my heart simply wouldn’t be in it. I’ve seen it time and time again as well, with some really good people. The moment they feel as though their development has stalled is often the moment they begin to lose interest.

    We often talk about our inability to attract or retain players because of financial limitations, but I actually think this is a much bigger factor than money. If you’re a club that’s seen as progressive and develops your players, both in terms of their skill level and meeting their career aspirations, players will naturally want to join and stay for longer. If you’re not, they won’t.

    Could I really blame any of the likes fo Edouard, Christie, McGregor, Ajer etc for think “what the * am I even doing here?” Nah. If I was in their shoes I would be asking myself the same question.
     
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  11. joemc

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    Show me were ive made up stuff , its all fact , not made pish about how he has no tactics ,doesn't talk to players and is drunk most days .
     
  12. Breathnach67

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    in fairness how on earth can you verify that?
     
  13. JamesM09

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    In my opinion, Rodgers either didn't care or he thought the support loved him so much that they would put 100% of the blame on Lawwell.

    We don't need to know the 'true story' for this one Jeannie. Let's be generous and assume Lawwell was the worst of the worst to work with (I actually do think that). That doesn't make Rodgers any less of a rat for not staying for another few months. He wanted to get to Leicester early and that's it.

    He's also a known *, by the way. Folk that met him when he took his mask off know it. I'm sure Danny McGrain is the one that said the story was a lot of * too.
     
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  14. joemc

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    I'm also not for or against Lennon, he got the job done many times before for us , this time there is so much more at play with regards to how its all gone south , its not just the manager or players not playing , its pressure and not dealing with it , no fans ,missing players and changes all forced on us along with fans missing , but its up to management to fix and they are struggling to do this .
     
  15. joemc

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    People believe it cauz its been said on here before, doesn't make it true .
     
  16. Breathnach67

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    Sorry mate I completely misread the initial message. I thought you were accusing him. Yes I agree though, rumours like that should be taken with a significant pinch of salt.
     
  17. JamesM09

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    Mate this is the post I've been trying to write. Thank * someone else thinks like this.

    Imagine you're thriving under Rodgers and his expert coaching team one minute, then the next minute the Hibs manager, who was sacked by the players, is your boss.

    He's old school, doesn't do coaching and drops the standards dramatically on tactics.

    You carry him through because you still have what the previous coach gave you, then you get Gavin Strachan brought in as your reward.

    It's unreasonable to expect players to keep giving their all when you're giving the raw * in return.
     
  18. Jeannie Gold Member Gold Member

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    Yep I agree Lawell may have been the problem. Having been found to be a duplicitous character it's easy to believe everything about BR too. Although I don't know much about BR beyond Celtic. Tbh I didn't even know who he was :56:What a brass neck to make up a story like that while sitting next to him. He must have felt invincible :56:Incidentally I think that Lennon could never have predicted that the support would turn on him. These guys live in their own heads.
     
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    All this dosen't reflect well on Lenny as a person, the fact that he and the Board know this is harming the club, but they are puting their own interests first, it's disgusting.
     
  20. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life

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    The board at the time done everything they possibly could to keep him, he even got a pay rise, we bought whatever * he wanted to sign and he still * us/the board over, so what more we could have done to keep him ,I have no idea. But if anyone can tell me I'd be all ears.
    You say we will never know the whole truth, that's true, then again we don't know the whole truth about now, but that hasn't stopped folk hurling about all kinds of */assumptions though.
    Aye Danny was asked about it but felt he couldn't say anything at the time.

    https://celtsarehere.com/how-brendan-rodgers-embarrassed-a-celtic-legend-the-truth/
     
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