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John Kennedy

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by LectersLuncheon, May 15, 2016.

Discuss John Kennedy in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. littlekennie

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    Quite clear board appointed Lennon second time around hoping he would get accustomed to the way Rodgers did things hence the choice of backroom staff


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  2. eire4

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    Last time I heard from him was Friday.
     
  3. Twisty . Gold Member

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    Just don't get his end game. He surely either thinks he's in for the main job at some point or, I really don't know. The next guy that takes over might well demand his own assistant and that leaves him back down to a lower role or out on his *. He might well, if let go, end up in a decent enough job but surely won't be better than Hibs. Unless he knows of something else that could be waiting for him.
     
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  4. eire4

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    I do not know where he seems himself years down the road. I can tell you though he is well respected in the game and will not have a tough time finding another job if that comes to pass. But having said that I would not be surprised to see him at Celtic long term because firstly he is a Celtic man through and through but also because he is very well thought of as a coach and a professional.
     
  5. Breathnach67

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    Where, realistically, is a better job for a manager his age in Scotland than Hibs? Quite surprised that he’d turn that down, especially if him and Lenny don’t see eye to eye. Although maybe that rift is only a recent thing.
     
  6. Twisty . Gold Member

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    I don't doubt he is highly though of. Just don't think every manager that comes here will want an assistant in place for them. The guy isn't daft, which is why I believe he must have his sight set on the main job here. Unless he is willing to step back to a lesser role at some point if required.
     
  7. Twisty . Gold Member

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    Not many, in Scotland certainly, which is why it seems strange him knocking it back to stay as an assistant here without wanting the managers job.
     
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    I’m not sure if he’s made any comments in the past but it could be the case he’s happy being a coach. No one ever questions 99% of other coaches don’t make the jump up.

    That being said, I suppose being heavily linked with the Hibs job suggests he’s looking to get into management one day.
     
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    All I will say is he has not had his sights set on the top job at Celtic. What the future holds time will tell but seeking the top job has not been on his agenda to this point. I will also again emphasize how highly he is thought of as a coach and as a professional.
     
  10. G_portillo

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    your being pedantic now. Its that exact type of narrow mindedness thats lead to the current. Finishing first in a one horse race.
    The biggest tests were in europe, but yeah “teams in europe all spend more than us.” We were leaking goals. Its fact.
    There was undeniable and evident issues in the defence since even when Virgil van dijk was playing with us.
     
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    Could be a lot of truth in what you say there.
     
  12. JamesM09

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    Mate just stop.

    I’m not defending Deila’s time here so stop straw manning please.

    I’m saying you can’t say the defence was abysmal when we won every trophy going, went invincible, huge clean sheet runs etc. I’m talking exclusively about Rodgers era, in which you assert our defence was horrendous and you lay it at John Kennedy’s feet.

    Rodgers played a certain way that meant quality sides in Europe could expose our defence. It’s his style and something we’re all aware of. Even so, we tended to qualify for the champions league or at least make the last 32 of the Europa League, so again, the defence can’t have been that bad.

    You’re sitting there putting all our defending for the last SIX YEARS on John Kennedy, despite there being 3 different managers and VASTLY different levels of success in that period and you having very little idea who is actually dealing with the defence.

    It’s scatter gun and it’s embarrassing.

    We completely agree this season has been abysmal. Let’s get Lennon out and let the next manager, who will be able to observe the coaches directly and not speculate responsibilities, decide who is a good or bad coach.

    Bottom line is this: You’re sitting on a forum making speculations about stuff you don’t know. I’m simply saying we don’t know and it’s unfair.

    It’s mental to me you will just disregard the successful defence under Rodgers as ‘*’ to suit an anti-Kennedy agenda.
     
  13. Brian Dunphy

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    Kennedy should 100% go when Lennon does. Is he going to be a number 2 under every new manager until he retires?
     
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  14. G_portillo

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    we didnt win everything going, we won every domestic competition going in a league and at a time where Aberdeen represented our biggest threat. The strength of the spl was poor. Its gotten a lot better since. We severely out-powered and outspent everyone else and we had very little in the way of a credible challenge.

    Even in the Deila era we got skelped in europe twice by Legia when we had two centre backs in Van dijk and Denayer. You are totally omitting europe which is the only place in the last 5 or 6 seasons where we have been tested by a proper team, until this season. Away in europe under Rodgers we got scudded regularly. Are you too young to remember?

    Its not speculation that the defensive issues have blighted us for seasons now. Its fact to any celtic fan who has watched us over the past few seasons.
     
  15. G_portillo

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    and to be fair, you suggesting that Kennedy isnt part of the problem is speculation also. So far you have provided no evidence to back up your argument. The proof is in the pudding, which is our results and performances against decent sides.

    its not anti kennedy, its not isolated to just kennedy. Its you who is trying to make it about Kennedy alone.
    Lawell should go for his incompetence and lack of strategy and vision, lennon should go because the players wont play for him and he cant seem to motivate his team, and kennedy should go because for years we havnt looked like being strong defensively against strong sides and as a defender in his day, this is where his value as a coach should lay.
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    If he doesnt, what does he do? Do you think he is training the attackers?
     
  16. JamesM09

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    I’m not speculating Kennedy isn’t part of the problem. I’m saying we don’t know so put the scatter gun away. Let the next manager decide who’s a good and bad coach before calling for a man to lose his job on uninformed speculation.
     
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    Its not scattergun either. You keep using that term.

    There is basis to suggest the defence has not been good enough and as part of that coaching team, Kennedy is also culpable.
     
  18. Twisty . Gold Member

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    He can get to * as well
     
  19. paulie walnuts Gold Member Gold Member

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    Absolutely. It would be pointless to sack Lennon but keep him on in any capacity. He seems to have played a big part in getting us into this mess.
     
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  20. Bonobhoy

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    Yep,he can * off.

    We have looked after him enough since the injury,no other club would do that.

    But complete clear out from top to bottom.

    Lennon first then his staff,then Lawell,then the team.