Neil Lennon

I said the same thing to someone who brought him into a reply to me, he won 8 trophies and got them to a Uefa cup final.

 

It just is not enjoyable to watch us play anymore and to be frank hasn’t all season. We all continue to watch the games because we are supporters and I will always watch Celtic.

That doesn’t mean it’s not become a complete chore to watch us and it’s stale/boring/predictable. There is no excitement in the build up to games, they are always predicated now by wondering what team is going to turn up and whether or not the tactics or team will be the right one.

That’s down to the manager not coaching the team properly, we are a team at the moment of individuals and we are winning games because of individual play and on the whole having better players. We are losing games and conceding too many goals because we are not playing as a team instead as individuals and it’s resulting in individual mistakes leading to goals.

The players are not covering for each other and I feel that is coming from the manager and his lack of ability to put a cohesive team on the pitch.

That isn’t how I want to feel watching Celtic I want to get that feeling back of joy and elation back and nervousness. Unfortunately I just don’t think Lennon can turn it around. We have been waiting and waiting hoping for that spark that 90 minute display that says yes we are back but it just doesn’t come.

We could wait all season for it and by then it’s too late. I would give him until the international break in November. If there is no spark by then he’s got to go.

 

You’re right when you say ‘big’.

Big fanbase. Big history. But we’re not a big club in Europe anymore. We’re the champions of Scotland who regularly fail to qualify for the CL and haven’t made a real dent in Europe in 17 years.

We’re in the same bracket as the likes of Cluj, Dinamo Zagreb, Red Star Belgrade etc these days.

 

To be fair he started Rogic today who set up two, and then brought on Griffiths who scored.

Depends who else is around, if we sack him we'll probably just end up with Kennedy as a manager

 

Let’s be honest mate, we are not a “big “ club in Europe

 

Getting to the last 16 in the champions league 3 times In last 13 year s and getting past the group stages is probably us making a fairly big dent in Europe when you look at the finances of Europe s elite Compared to ours but even just getting to group stages seems a million miles away now

 

Yes because those teams are being constantly mismanaged. I don't know how that's an argument.

 

So getting pepe guardiola Quoted as 1 of the best manager s ever , and zinedine Zidane Winner o f last 3 out 4 champions league As Their managerS and given them the biggest budget in world football to buy players is poor management

a don’t get that one

 

That’s not making a dent in Europe. It’s big for us, of course. But nobody outside of Scotland takes/took any notice of it.

Basel have made the last 16 twice since the last team we reached it.

 

I mean, it’s * mental.

 

See you noticed Basel made it lol,a noticed it aswell and did think “ their punching above their weight whether that’s making a dent in Europe I’m not sure

 

Think now people we have came to the crossroads to we stick with him or sack him and bring someone in with fresh ideas .
Some people shouting for Martinez the Belgium manager with Maloney as his number two and give him a good transfer budget in January .
I think the board will give him more time maybe after the Motherwell game to see what the situation will be then .

 

Have to agree on @PaulM1888 here, he's shown plenty that he does infact employ tactics; despite the ones that he's stubbornly been wedded to this season being very ineffective.

For Hibs he regularly out-thought Rodgers despite him having a vastly superior squad and supposed tactical superiority over him.

I remember bursting blood vessels at the Barca game and screaming for the full backs to push out to their wide men who were in constant space. After the game it was discussed that it was a tactic by design, cede the wide ground knowing they would be averse to putting crosses in and would try pass it back centrally, to the areas that we had packed.

This isn't to downplay his excruciatingly bad decision-making this season and I definitely think it's time up for Neil but it's just a fallacy to pretend he doesn't employ tactics. 9 year old quote or not he's shown plenty evidence since then that he does.

 

Klopp, Guardiola, Conte, Simeone etc must just be silly hipsters. Why waste all that time on a system when all they need to do is tell their players to go out and win?

His honours list, as a manager, shows he’s had the best group of players in the country up here in both his spells and has essentially done what he should be doing. Beating poor/average Rangers sides and the likes of Aberdeen and Motherwell to trophies.

However, perhaps he would have more success against the likes of Cluj and Ferencvaros if he put more faith into those hipster tactics.

The teams with the best players usually win the trophies because they tend to have the best managers around. Or at least managers who use a system to get the best out of their squad of players.

 

Guys the manager of a country who came 3rd in the World Cup, probably unlucky not to win it and probably the best Belgium squad ever who are in with a right shout of winning the euros if it ever gets played, granted with half their players out they lost to England recently

a can’t see a guy giving that up to be a manager in the spl

 

Well how many people thought we get Rogers as manager and the end of the day it comes down to money and offer enough you never know .
If we leave it too long it could be too late but the board need to make that choice but 10 in a row doesn't come along too often and the decision needs to be soon .

 

No, I’ve listed a bunch of managers who have a clear philosophy and system that they build a team around.

Atletico Madrid did not have the best team (talent wise) in their league when Simeone won the league with them and got them to CL finals. They had a fantastic system that suited the players and made them more than the sum of their parts. Same with Klopp getting Dortmund to a CL final and winning back to back league titles.

Guardiola and Klopp have been breaking records with City and Liverpool because they sign players to suit the system and can make good players look great, or average players look good.

To suggest tactics aren’t a big part of football is absolute nonsense.

 

I wouldn't touch ANY international manager, until they can prove sustained, levels of success for the level of club they were domestically.

To that extent, I'd stay clear of Martinez, he's done nothing long lasting domestically, was it under him Wigan one a cup but also got relegated?

If international management success meant anything, for achieving far and beyond anyone's expectations then * Chris Coleman would be the type of * we'd end up with, but as we already know, he's rancid in domestic football.

I'm not going to sit here and act like some football historian and master scout, but I'd still have every belief that if the board actually gave a *, they could, without issue get another Rodgers in no bother.

They won't though. They'd rather see Lennon stay, see out the season, effectively leaving the 10iar in the air where it could either way, if it we win, they win, if we lose, they win - because then, they'd sack Lennon and go out, make the effort to win our cash back and sign a top quality manager just like they did when they went out and got MON and Rodgers