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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Brian Dunphy

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    100% this
     
  2. ede

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    Perfectly said.

    I just think he doesn’t have the tactical accumen to set up teams properly. Also the shape is not great either. Too often players not knowing where they should be or where others should be.
     
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  3. oh bhoy

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    Where the * is the new manager
     
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  4. Dublin Celt

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    Good few on here have spotted how frimpong was really nullified at the weekend, at times he got the ball and there was two or three blue shirts right on top of him with no where to go. Like last december where Gerrard set up to disrupt the balls going to the 3 attacking mids and edoaurd in the 4231, Gerrard set up to stop frimpong getting any space or go forward ball in the 352. also think we have a serious player in laxalt and he still created and got forward a bit despite the double triple marking. my point being if people on here are spotting these things 20 mins into first half how is the management team not? They are literally 5 yards away from frimpong in first half.

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  5. StevieBhoooy!

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    Just needs a firm move from a firm board....

    It’s been done plenty times before -

    DiMateo at Chelsea after FA cup and CL wins (first ever for club)
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    Ranieri after taking Leicester to epl win - come to mind ...

    Id rather he went now... but even if we win the 10 it’s his ‘get out’ so needs to take it.

    The ‘friends’ all rallying in support just shows to me that he and they all know he’s farked up big style and needs to be offed...

    This is too critical a season to delay making the right decision.

    January could be too late for decisive action.
     
  6. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Spot on regarding how they played to stop us playing with Frimpong.
    It allowed us more time on the ball in the middle as well, them knowing we arent great shakes the now, they was happy to allow that.
    All in the effort to stop us playing down the wings.

    Back to a flat 44 would mean that our now really dynamic Left and Right full backs will have plenty of help on the flanks to stop being doubled up on.
    Helps the wingers as well, since they now both have good energetic full backs who can be used on the overlap going forward and backwards.

    For me, the way forward with our players is overlaps on the wings, not a defensive 3 and 3 in the CB and CM positions to pretend to control games that we already do with 2 and 2
     
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  7. wulliebad

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    He will get a email when they beat us at new year.:fear:
     
  8. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    I do think we should give him the next few games to see if he can get a reaction.

    Replacing him after one league defeat is harsh whatever way we look at it.. although I do get those calling for his head that its more of combination of performances, selections and poor results in important matches.

    Any manager in his shoes would be deserving of some patience.

    It is a bit of a Catch 22 situation, keep him and we win the ten, stuck with him after.. But for me it's more of gamble throwing in a new manager to this pressure and then what sack him too if he can't deliver the 10?

    Securing last seasons Scottish Cup could be an amazing boost for squad harmony and confidence.

    For now we should support him and the players as best we can give them every chance to turn it around, even if it is in spite of his tactical ability..

    It's a *, far from ideal situation but calls for his head are a tad premature..
     
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  9. evilbunny1991

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    What is most concerning to me is that as people have alluded to above Rangers setup in order to nullify our clear threats.

    Our biggest threat comes from the wingbacks putting balls into the box or linking up with the attackers to create opportunities. So Rangers setup to close down the space available to the wingbacks at the source, I.e. in our own half or just inside theirs when the wingbacks received possession. Both were smothered instantly by 2/3 players.

    That’s a clear indication that Gerrard and his team did their homework and created a plan to nullify our biggest threat. In doing so it allowed them to steal the ball in advanced areas to counter.

    Now when Rangers had possession and again their threat is also in the wide areas through the full backs and the inside forwards. Where was the identification from our management team that that is their threat and what plans were put in place to nullify it? Obviously none were because Tavernier and Barisic were able to run from their own half to near enough the edge of our box before one of our players confronts them. The goals we conceded and the goals we have conceded this year are because we are not cutting off the supply at source we actually allow balls to be delivered into the box.

    I think this issue runs deeper than just against the huns. I genuinely cannot remember a game in recent memory where I have gone yes Lennon has set up the team that way in order to combat an opponents biggest threat be it a winger or striker. Never have I gone we worked on that in training and it’s worked a treat we did our homework. I see no evidence of this kind of work in our play at all no acceptance that we have to not just work on our own style of play but setup the team also to combat our opponents strength and play into their weaknesses.

    That is my biggest concern I see on a weekly basis and it is simply negligence. It’s an attitude we have better players we don’t need to factor in the opposition we will win because individually we have more quality. Football does not work like that and it is a dinosaur mentality that is getting found out on a regular basis even by run of the mill SPL managers who are tactically able to out manoeuvre Lennon.
     
  10. MacEwan Himmy Butler Gold Member

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    The semi against Aberdeen is the big one for me.

    Milan and Lille are going to be brutal. I don’t think people realise how much both teams have actually improved. I’m not expecting much.

    Aberdeen in the league is massive too. For me is he loses either game against them then that’s time.
     
  11. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    For me, he needs to go now, but I get the board arent going to do that.

    But he really feels like he is one game away from being sacked at this stage.
    The football is poor and shows no signs of learning from it, unless he suddenly changes things for the better I will forever feel this season that we are a St Mirren, ICT sort of result from it being beyond question.
    Ala, Mowbray and Barnes.
    Now certainly Lennon is not as poor a manager over the course as these two, but this season the football is shocking and worse than these two, the results of sneaking wins against St Johnstone are holding him on, IMO.

    It's one 3-0 defeat to Motherwell or the likes away from this ending very very badly for Lennon.

    Love the guy, wish it works out for us all, but the longer this continues, the more likely it seems to be that a disaster result of embaressing proportions will creep in and he will be shown the door in a far worse way than if he just held his hands up at this stage.
     
  12. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aye some folk seem to think Milan are the same club as 8 years ago when they was over aged and over paid hasbeens.
    The players they have just now are actually really good and I fully expect based on our season so far, they will thump us on Thursday.
     
  13. paulmcq1888

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    A skelping from Milan and any dropped points at Aberdeen should be the writing on the wall
     
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  14. john2061

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    Lennon said there's players who don't want to be here so why were they not sold and think you have 5 or 6 players who are raging they didn't get a move and have downed tools .
     
  15. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    And that Milan team came to Parkhead and absolutely destroyed us...
     
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  16. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    Lennon said players don’t want to be here because he wanted to deflect from another Lennon disasterclass.

    No coincidence he only mentioned it when we got pumped out of the CL.

    And if there was players who didn’t want to be here and he thought it was damaging enough to go public then why keep playing the same players.
     
  17. FrankMcCallum

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    The more time that passes the worse it gets. Completely delusional and out of his depth I’m afraid.
     
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    Steadied the ship when he came back, but shouldn't have been given the job permanently; will always be a legend, but if you're being out-thought by Gerry, then you've got a problem.
     
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  19. StevieBhoooy!

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    The thing is though....

    We could take a battering on Thursday.. drop points in the league... but get to SC final and it will be seen as ‘achievement’ and used to gloss over the other failings. Then it will just drag on until January.. we ‘might’ have another treble but it’s not THIS season... it’s not the league ...and that’s what matters.

    I rarely/never want Celtic managers gone... but this time (even though it won’t happen) I’d like to see a new man giving the orders on Thursday evening...
     
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    I think this time round there is a distinct lack of leaders in that squad too. Who among the squad will grab a few by the scruff and tell them to up the standard? Or to give those who are not pulling their weight a dressing down?
    Maybe one? Two?
    Theres a worrying lack of characters. Just too lightweight, too passive.
    in days gone by the Hartsons, Suttons, Petrovs and Mjalbys would be going for each other in the dressing room.
    Theres Brown and maybe Duffy but yet to see it. Ajer looked as if he might have been but his mind is elsewhere. Mcgregor deputises but if we are all being honest he isnt a leader.
    Julien doesnt seem to be fancied. The rest, just dont have any presence.
     
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