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Leigh Griffiths

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Vertie Auld, Jan 31, 2014.

Discuss Leigh Griffiths in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Scott smyth

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    Get a grip he leads a VERY privileged life and playing football for any club as a living is a gift not to be sniffed at. Club car, good wage, treated like a king every day adored by the fans ffs it's a hard life. He's a professional football player and needs to be exactly that, professional or he will be pulled apart. I put down what I feel and don't just listen to the media for my opinions. As for the 2 strikers chomping at the bit ffs you're happy to take 2 strikers, one with 5 goals and one with none, into this massive season. A hard life is not knowing where MY next wage is coming from, having to not pay bills so I can pay my season ticket and telling my missus that we are skint. That's a hard place to be mentally as well. I will swap that for his life any day of the week so pardon me for being objective
     
  2. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Get *.
     
  3. Scott smyth

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    Classy reply that.
     
  4. MacEwan MV3 Gold Member

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    Honestly got a cheek to talk about classy after your last post.
     
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  5. McGrory1888

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    You appear to be missing the point people are making. Money, a “dream” job and a nice car don’t always translate to happiness. Griff obviously has his demons and frankly his mental health is more important than being physically at his peak. Mental health issues effect people in every walk of life - lawyers, bankers, plumbers, everybody - and people miss days at work constantly as a result. Being a footballer doesn’t make Griff immune to that.
     
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  6. jj81

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    I know what I'd be picking if given the choice, material things or my mental health.

    Who knows what he's going through , none of us on here I'd bet.
     
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  7. Ryanmcg84

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    Every manager he has had at the club has at some point or another felt the need to publicly highlight his lack of fitness. For me as a professional footballer not turning up capable of doing his job is a perfect example of him letting his manager and club down.

    This latest situation that your happy to play down and laugh off the 3 friendlies mite be no big deal to you but you can guarantee it is to our manger. Its such a big deal that he's decided that he'd rather start the season without his 2nd choice striker having played any type of match for 4 months. With huge games coming up in the qualifiers not being able to call on someone of his ability due to him being so far behind in his fitness that even after 4 weeks back he's still so far off it that he's having to stay behind is letting his manger and club down.

    The constant petty childish arguments on social media is embarrassing. I'm. Not talking about the morons talking about his kids I'm talking about the stupid * where he's arguing with daft wee boys. You don't see any other player in our squad behaving that way. For me I find it needless and stupid and would expect someone in his position to be a bit wiser. Again I feel it let's the club down.

    We are a club open to all, that's been our ethos from our very beginning, it's something I take greet pride in. We fly banners welcoming refugees, our supporters go on marches supporting these minority groups. It gives us all a sense of pride when we see the fantastic charity work the club and our supporters do.
    Griffiths was done for singing a song were he called a fellow professional a * refugee. That is not the type of behaviour befitting of a Celtic player and again let the club down.
    That incident may have been 5 years ago but it highlighted a stupidity and ignorance in him that he doesn't seem to have improved upon very much.
    He's been given far more chances than someone of his ability deserves yet he seems incapable of realising that and continues to do stupid things.

    You mentioned the comparison with Lennon earlier and the whole he brings it upon himself narrative. The difference is Lennon was in no way at fault or to blame for anything that he had to suffer hear at the hands of bigotted morons. Griffiths does bring it upon himself, the only person to blame for Leigh Griffiths not being fit is Leigh Griffiths, the only person to blame for Leigh Griffiths having a go at managers is Leigh Griffiths, the only person to blame for the stupid twitter arguments is Leigh Griffiths, the only person to blame for Leigh Griffiths singing racist songs is Leigh Griffiths.
     
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  8. FrankMcCallum

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    You only see the true * on here when an issue like this comes up.

    People that think players are invincible because they’ve got a nice house and a flashy motor. Weapons.
     
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    Your reply was no better tbh totally ignorant of mental health issues money can’t buy you happiness you ever heard of the saying their is stuff in Griffiths life that money cant fix I heard one of his children is autistic but hey that’s okay because he has a big car and wage right ?


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    I'm fairly sure LG will knuckle down and get back to fitness in the near future.

    There's a pattern here and I'd bet neither LG or NL isn't panicking about the situation.

    LG just seems the type of guy who makes it hard for himself...one of these days it will catch up with him though.
     
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  11. JML67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Sounds to me like you're jealous, bitter, and a * tbh. The sheer irony of saying "get a grip he leads a privileged life" and then mentioning your own hardships - when you could count yourself lucky for not being a disabled homeless man with no family in a war torn country... It's not that simple.

    But instead you're on here relentlessly slagging a guy who plays for Celtic cause you read a story in the daily record. Maybe show some respect and empathy with the guy and SUPPORT him as that's what we tend to do for our players.

    Oh and a heads up, if you reply to this don't expect one back. You're tiresome and quite frankly filling this thread with pointless repetitive *. No need to keep going round in circles.
     
  12. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Lol. You sound like a rabid hun here.

    I’m not laughing off the friendlies, I said it’s a disappointment that he isn’t involved and I’ve also said if it’s down to him just being a bit lazy, then he deserves criticism. However I don’t know the full story and neither do you. I maintain that there isn’t an issue if he sorts himself out in time for the season.

    Yes the song about Rudi Skacel was a mistake, one that he’s since made admissions about having learned from and hasn’t repeated. He received his punishment, everyone moved on. His behaviour, engagement with the fans, and charity work has been exemplary for the majority of his time here. The Skacel incident is the only time where I feel your previous statement about letting people down definitely applies.

    Folk might find his posts on social media cringey, but it’s up to him if he wants to use the platforms. Plenty of players do. At least Griffiths has a bit of personality, rather than the robotic and manufactured posts created for many players.

    The part where you say he’s gotten more chances than he deserves is ridiculous.

    Deila is the only manager who has directly said he needs to get fitter to get in the team, which he did. He needs to do it again, which I’m sure he will. It still doesn’t warrant the witch hunt. It’s a manager’s job to push the players to improve. No-one is pretending Griffiths is the model professional, or that he shouldn’t be in better physical condition right now, but once again, it’s bizarre that one of our own fans would go to such lengths to have a go at him. He’s proven time and time again he’s a good player to have at the club. I’d love our entire squad to be “24 hour athletes” and model professionals, but that’s unrealistic. We’re all human, we all have flaws. Give me a goalscoring Griff any day, over someone such as Fortune who was probably fitter but was never as prolific. It’s funny how other players who played for us didn’t receive this level of overreaction or scrutiny when they had clear issues, Boruc being an example.
     
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  13. Ryanmcg84

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    Other players don't receive this type of scrutiny?

    Ntcham is a far far superior player and athlete yet the thread on him is full of people wanting him sold because he's lazy.
    I guarantee you ntcham hasn't returned unfit for pre sesson. The reaction on here would be far different if it was him.

    Deila is only manger to mention his fitness?
    Do you not understand what this whole argument is about? The club literally said 4 * days ago he's not fit enough for preseason.

    Ah there it is again the classic talk celtic reply to anyone who dares to criticise any celtic player. "You sound like a hun."

    It doesnt make me a hun because I expect higher standards from players getting paid a * ton of money to play for my club than you do.

    You don't see any issue with his behaviour fine but if we go into champions league qualifiers and Eddy is injured and Griffiths isn't fit enough to take his place due to lack of game time/match sharpness then its a massive * problem is it not?

    And if you want yet another example think back to December when that exact scenario above happened and we were forced to play Lewis * Morgan in a cup final against the huns.
     
  14. Cupid Stunt

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    This bit I agree with fully, however, the club are aware of his recent mental health problems and we shouldn't have then and shouldn't be now, going in to a season with only two capable strikers.

    The club were probably less aware of his mental health last season, they've no excuses this season, another capable striker should have already been brought in IMO, or at least be very close to coming in.

    If we're going in to a 10IAR season with a guy with mental health problems as our only back up, then that's horrendous management from the top to the coaching staff.
     
  15. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    No other player has faced this level of scrutiny over his apparent level of fitness, from our own fans.
    Maybe don’t victim blame or spend post after post looking to further the tabloid narrative then.
    Lol. I don’t know or care if you’re a hun but what you’ve used to have a go at him isn’t you expecting higher standards than me. What money he’s on is between him and the club and he’s been excellent value for money in the time he’s been here. Ideally he’d have contributed even more but such is life.
    It would be an issue, aye, but it’s up to the club and manager to have plans in place to deal with as many scenarios as possible. If Griff has done wrong he’ll be told what to do to rectify it. The manager will make sure he’s as ready as he can be. I have faith in both Lennon and Griffiths to sort it out.

    When will you stop using his personal problems against him?

    Did we win that cup final or am I imagining it? Griffiths didn’t cost us the final so I don’t see why you’d try and use that against him. It’s pretty low of you and this is exactly what makes you sound like a hun.

    I didn’t say I have no issue with his behaviour, I said it was disappointing he’s not going to play in France, but I accept I don’t know the full story. How many times do you need something repeating before it sinks in? Or do you always twist people’s words in a discussion? First you said I compared Lennon’s situation with Griff’s and now you’re claiming I see no issue with his behaviour. Both false.
     
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    Yeah I agree but were I would cut the club a wee bit of slack is Klimala.

    They spent £3.5m, which is a decent amount for us on him in January and through no fault of there own he's not been able to show if he's good enough.

    He's an unknown quantity and the club have now been forced into position of him being our 2nd choice striker due to fact Griffiths has failed to keep himself physically fit over the past 4 months.

    Hopefully Klimala seizes the chance being afforded to him
     
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    The * in the media really were spewing with griff cupping his ears when he came back scoring .any chance they get to ramp up the pressure. Morelos 12 league goals Griffiths 9 goals a half fit Griffiths has them running scared
     
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    The media have been quite ridiculous. How can anyone know what's going on in LG's mind? I've struggled with the pandemic and what's going to happen in the future for my kids and for all we know, he has a similar mind-set.

    I'm certainly refusing to comment on this situation. Footballers are no different from us.
     
  19. Bayern Bru Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mental how some scummy papers mention our players (apparent) immediate problems and our fans start arguing amongst themselves.

    Congrats, you’ve played yerselfs
     
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    There’s a lot of talk about mental health here, but is there any evidence that his mental health has played a part in this? He has a history of fitness issues that stem from a lack of professionalism, rather than a recurring injury issue, so this isn’t exactly new.

    It isn’t just about missing a few friendly’s either. Those games, and the preparation carried out while in France, is designed to get our players up to speed for our season kicking off in under 3 weeks. Being deemed not fit enough to even take part in that process is a worrying sign, imo. Personally, I think anyone expecting Griffiths to play a part on the opening day of the season is being very optimistic.

    And that’s the worry for me. He’s our second striker and did the hard work towards the end of last season by linking up so well with Edourd that he forced Lennon into changing the system. It’s frustrating, and for me at least, disappointing.