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Celtic’s next permanent manager

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Jeremie Frimpong, Feb 26, 2019.

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  1. Liam Scales

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    Aye, can see that but it would rule out the likes of Rose.

    We’d need to find somebody before they become that obvious candidate. Imagine us getting Sergio Conceicao before he went to Nantes? We’d have went mental :56:

    Lenny’s my candidate but until the 10 but if we’re looking at other candidates, then we need to be very, very careful of how they approach the job.
     
  2. Liam Scales

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    Think it’d just be ‘no, grazie’ :56:

    Again though, an ambitious shout. Can he even speak English though?
     
  3. Mr. Slippyfist

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    You also need to cater in a manager's knowledge of his respected country/ or league he's managed in.

    We have scouts all over the place, but if you have a manager who is coming from....say Germany, then he'll know fine well even more than any of our scouts probably could about players based in Germany.

    But aye, this one needs to be played very well because next season isn't going to be a walk in the park - I suspect the huns are signing a few * players on freebies with a view to stockpiling any cash they have into 2-3 players who they think can genuinely upgrade their team.

    We have to do the exact same, although not with signing freebie pish - time we added quality players in who will challenge for first team places, not simply squad fillers who aren't good enough for the first team (which is exactly what Rodgers promised us, and failed to deliver).
     
  4. Mr. Slippyfist

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    I'd hope so, either that or he's just had a full scale conversation over the phone that he didn't understand :56::56::56::56:
     
  5. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    I can't agree with that.

    Hate giving any praise to the rat but he had operated at the very top level of English Football, narrowly missing out on winning the league, Champions League experience etc. I'd regard that as genuine top level. We were fortunate in that he was out of a job and was looking to rebuild his reputation.

    Graham Potter has charted a similar course to Deila.

    Wagner - while highly regarded by Klopp - hasn't done anything in the game to suggest he's 'top level', his career win rate as manager is under 35%. As I said a few pages back Lambert achieved successive promotions with Norwich, then retained their Premier League status the following season which is arguably better than Wagner. No-one would regard Lambert as at that level.

    Moyes has managed to bag himself some big jobs without ever winning anything. For me he'd be a horrific appointment.

    I guess this is just a long-winded way of saying I don't see an outstanding candidate for the job in the same way that the rat was in 2016.
     
  6. Mr. Slippyfist

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    True, but when we got Rodgers it was off the back of being sacked having lead his Liverpool team to.......I can't actually recall the position - but it was something between 5th-7th having been embarrased in the CL, and struggled to beat Hearts at Murrayfield in the qualifiers.

    He wasn't bombarded with offers (even if he said he was, I'd doubt anything the * said now). If we had got him off the back of his almost season with Liverpool, then we'd have been getting a TOP manager in, but as it stood, we got a manager who had flopped with Liverpool, therefore his stock had dwindled considerably from the season before.
     
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    Aye, especially the lower leagues of Germany, France, Spain... we don’t take advantage of those markets at all and there is very good players in there.

    I think it’s the final throw of the dice for them in the summer, they’d rather liquidate again than having us winning the 10. I’m expecting a bigger challenge from them next year but that’s not even in my thinking when it comes to our next manager, I just want us to be the best we can be. I need us in the Champions League, without the Champions Leaue we struggle to get quality. It’s the only way we can grow in Scotland as a club and it’s getting harder and harder to get there.
     
  8. Mr. Slippyfist

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    This.

    Even players from the Bundesliga 2 and Ligue 2 are extremely talented and needing recruited (now doubt yer man Park would have a field day scouting these leagues, Lenny at Paris FC too during last week which is a good thing).

    The huns are dangerous, but lack any real tactical astute - it's all about getting up the park as quickly as possible being direct and trying to score. A simple way to play, but something that can be dangerous if not managed carefully.

    CL qualification you're 100%. We all know we NEED the finance from getting to the group stages.
     
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    It’s not even the money for me when it comes to the CL (usually it is but right now we are comfortable). It does help, obviously.

    The thing that always stands out for me is signing Van Dijk. He outright stated the only reason he signed for us was our participation in the CL the year before. Our reputation was high on the continent, people wanted to sign for us, was impressed by us! It’s where we need to be.

    Think how much easier Ajax’s recruitment will be in the summer, a s a young promising player, you want some of that.

    Players not in the CL, watching on, watching us beat Barca; win away in Moscow; nearly get a point in the Nou Camp. Legendary players talking up our club.

    You’re a 21 year old, very promising up and coming player, you’re watching that from the sidelines. You want a part of it.

    We need to be at that level to grow, to attract the best we can.
     
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    Watch this....
    2 weeks before the first qualifier: Lennon announced as permanent manager on a 1 year rolling contract.
    Lawell: we always wanted Neil. It only took so long to make this announcement because Neil had to find a school for his kids (lie)
    Simunovic, Tierney, Ralston all injured.
    No signings.

    It’s the Celtic way.
     
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    That’s the way I see it :56:
     
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    Flopped is probably an exaggeration, he finished higher in the league than any previous Liverpool manager for decades. He then lost his best player and made a royal * of bringing in replacements (sounds familiar :87:) and then became a joke figure because of his ridiculous ego and quotes about character etc. Had he been a foreigner I suspect he wouldn't have had as hard of a time about it.

    As much as the Premiership is overhyped I'd regard any manager that's been in a genuine title fight in it recently as a 'top-level manager'. We're talking Conte, Mourinho, Pocchetino, Guardiola, Pellegrini, Ranieri etc.
     
  13. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Of course reputation is everything mate.

    We aren't blessed with being a work permit haven, so can't go get many obscure players from places.

    So what can we offer?

    A club with a huge reputation, a chance to win silverware every season amd a possible opportunity to compete in Europe.

    That' not enough for some players, but a manager with a decent rwputation can enhance the reputation of the whole club and if one has played at a high level, and has managed at one of the best European leagues then the chances of us getting in better players maximizes.

    Say if we were going for van Dijk ( or x player from Holland) - do you think there's more chance that x player (diamond in the rough, overlooked whatever) is going to want to join Neil Lennon and Celtic, or Philip Cocu and/or Celtic?

    Just to use that as an example, van Dijk obly csme here because of the CL fitba opportunity, we moght get someone who wouldn't just have been happy with the CL, but also the chance to work under someone with worldwide reputation etc.
     
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    :56::56::56:

    You should put money on it!
     
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    Cocu, no doubt, in that situation. He is a Dutch legend. You’d be going there and it would be a good route to go down that because then not only would we have Cocu’s reputation amongst the Dutch, you’d also have the best Dutch player currently singing our praises in Virgil, look at him thanking us after he won POTY.

    Reputation mate, we could get totally on top of that, exploit it. Likewise Dembele doing well at Lyon with the French.
     
  16. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    I'd take Cocu.
     
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    I’d still rather Lenny but I would be happy with the likes of Cocu.
     
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    100% my point, sometimes, well most times actually it's not a manager you're appointment it's everything that comes with it, and everything you can - in a good way - exploit it.
     
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    Shame about Wagner.

    Him or Cocu would be very interesting appointments. That's the type of manager I want.
     
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    Are you lumping them in as the same type of manager?
     
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