Pavlyuchenko and Bent

I think there's alot getting lost in the translation here.Personally i think it's great that
our Russian friends want to come onto a Celtic forum and discuss the signing options
of the BIGGEST team in Scotland and long may it continue Hail Hail.

 

lol i'm the one talking bullshit?

are Rangers a tactically bad side? they get results against teams much beter than them technically ie Werder Bremen, Sporting Lisbon. i mean look at what Hiddink has done for Russia. would you say you are better than the Dutch at football? because i certainly wouldn't.

its because of Walter Smith that our games are equal. if he wasn't their, they would still be a massive gap between us and them.

what you have said is complete and utter bullshit. Man Utd were beaten by Southend two season ago. does that mean they were on par with them?

btw was there any Russian teams in the last 5 years that got beyond the group stages of the champions league?

 

It was not only Hiddink. The russian players are quality. Russian team show excellent football on EURO (unlike korean and australians under him). Tactics is not the whole game. If you have individually strong players you dont care much about the tactics of your opponent, look again how Zenit took apart Rangers, I doubt you have such a quality players in your team, sorry

 

Ok here is my opinion Russian clubs came to prominence beacause of the oil thats why the Russian teams have money .

Celtic and them are big clubs in very small ponds if by some chance we got out or there where a european league or got the the Prem we would have lots of money to spend we cant spend the money in scotland because we just dont have enough of it coming in so it makes bad buisness sense to spend the kind of money to bring top players.

Like i said if we got out we would spend big .

To our Russian friends one of the main men at our club is worth just over a billion so we do have cash .
We will always be a bigger and better team than any russian club imo.

Any way hope Russian hump the spanish

 

South Korea overachieved! they knocked out Italy or Spain due and went all the way to the quaters or semis, if memory services me right.

your right. Zenit do have a better team at the moment than us. it doesn't mean we wouldn't beat them. AC Milan, Juve, Barca, Man Utd, Liverpool etc all had better teams than us, yet we still beat them. no way do Spartak, CSKA or Locomotiv come close to having a better team than we do.

just because Zenit has a better starting eleven than us doesn't make them a bigger club than Celtic. ie where's your history? plus what will Zenit's starting eleven look like by the end of the Euro's? no Arshavin, thats for sure. and lets face it, he is their driving force. it will leave a void that the opposition will exploit.

btw how many Russian teams have made it through the group stages of the Champions League in the last 5 years?

 

Welcome to the forum! It's nice to have an outside opinion on our football. The truth is, we are a far better team than Rangers and regularly show it, by doing pretty well in Europe and with limited resources. Our manager and director are currently restructuring the way our club is run, as it is impossible for a team from a country of our size to compete financially with the other teams in the Champions League. We have to buy young players, who show promise and develop them, or spend a little bit of money and hope the player turns out to be worth more than we paid (see Larsson). I think everyone is impressed with the resurgence of Russia in world football, at a club and national level, but maybe you should take some of these factors into consideration when judging the quality of our football. Rangers, as much as we hate them, did phenomenally well to get to the UEFA Cup final on the resources they had. It was terrible, boring football they played, but it was the only way they were going to progress. They don't have the money St. Petersburg do. We don't have the money the Moscow clubs have, yet we get further than your club teams, because we have experience at that level, we have guys that have been at the club for a wee while (not the money mercenaries Russian football is beginning to attract) and on European nights, we have the best home crowd in the world. Money will only take you so far. Just look at Chelski. For the record, I think Russia will win the Euros and deservedly so.

 

Thanks, mate

 

I just want to remind you that Zenit raped Bayer Munich 4:0 in Petersburg without Arshavin. But you right, Zenit will be weaker without him no doubt.
BTW He is going to Barca

 

Aye, but Bayern also drew with Aberdeen and they're * awful.

 

Well Russia football is on the up.. definetly Spartak Moscow was a pretty good team when we played them, Zenit was a good team when they beat Rangers and Russia have impressed during Euro 2008... But i dont think you can say Any of the Russian teams are bigger than Celtic... We have managed to get to the last 16 of the Champions league 2 years running by just winning our home games... in Contrast though the Russian League looks better than the Spl with teams like Spartak,Locomotiv,Cska Moscow and Zenit St Petersburg all chasing a league title.

 

i heard that too. hope he does well there.

4-0 was a very good result. Aberdeen did us proud against them with a 2-2 result in Aberdeen (and Aberdeen are hardly world beaters, just Rangers beaters ).

i'm not attacking Russian football. especially at this period of time when you are doing so well, its pretty hard to find something bad to say about it. i'm just saying historically, we are a bigger team than all of the Russian clubs.

 

I like how the team we knocked out last year in qualifiers for the CL and sent spartak into that diddy uefa cup and got their * handed to them in the first knockout stage of the uefa cup by marseille is talking *.


arrogance much?


nah get back to thinking your the best in the world.. one of these days your make the CL.. right?

 

Great post, mate.
I argee, you have maybe the best suppot in Europe. You, guys are amazing in supporting your team, you deserve a full respect. I think it is a very big factor in your victories in Europe. A big clubs that come to your stadium just forget how to play becouse of your increadible singing and support.

 

Yes, mate, I can agree with that.
Historically, maybe only Spartak can compete with your club.
It is no doubt, Celtic is a big club with great history.

 

It is missunderstanding.
No way any russian club is bigger than Celtic. According to history and traditions Celtic is one of the biggest clubs in Europe, and no russian club can compete Celtic in that (except Spartak, maybe). That I am talking about is that 4 top russian clubs can absolutely compete Celtic in the quality of the game.

 

It's always good for the championships to have an outside team do really well. I think most people thought it would be Croatia this year, but Turkey and Russia have been brilliant (the Turks through sheer persistence and Russia through quality football). It's a shame that it's Spain you have tonight. I think this would've been a great final.

 

Agree.
I would prefer Italy in the semis, they are old and slow team
Spanish are quick and creative like we are. Germany doesn't deserve to be in the final

 

Aye but we can guarentee them champions league group stage football which no russian team can. Russians are great footballers but to suggest that none of your players would leave is ridiculous. A teams support can make a player and any player in the world would enjoy playing at celtic park.

 

Spartak and Zenit in CL this year
3 best Russian teams in CL next year

 

I think you are all misunderstanding what the boy has to say, he is not meaning Zenit, Spartak Moscow, CSKA, Lokomotiv are bigger teams than Celtic he is saying that they are about the same quality which may or may not be misadvised I dont watch these teams on any regular basis, I dont think you can judge Celtic on the Spartak Moscow game due to it being our first competitive match of the season I think and we still came out with a draw on both occasions. I also dont think you can judge Celtic on the fact the Rangers are *. Although since winning the Uefa cup CSKA have never built on their archievment at all in my opinion in terms of european football, without Arshavin I think Zenit have the reluctance to do the same if their not careful. I dont think any of us can come out and say we have a player of Arshavins class in our league and he is one of the most exciting talents in the World game right now and is the name on every football fan watchin the euro championships, I dont think Barry Ferguson would have done the same if Scotland had made it could you?

Celtic are a bigger team and WILL beat anyone on our night, but Zenit at full strength are not a team I want to face, in fact I dont want to face any eastern european team in pots 3 or 4, as teams like Shakter and Spartak you just dont know what to expect from them. I would much rather AEK Athens or Steau Bucharest or something like that, not saying their not hard games as none are in Champs League.