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Celtic’s next permanent manager

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Jeremie Frimpong, Feb 26, 2019.

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  1. DJ CJ

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    Youngest manager to ever win a European trophy, won the award for best manager in Europe. Won leagues in Portugal and Russia, did well at spurs. To say he’d be a disaster is a bit of an exaggeration.
     
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  2. Lecs

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    I love Lenny but I don't think he's the man for the job.

    I don't really know enough about football as a whole anymore to give a good shout managerially. I only really focus on Celtic so I know * all about these foreign guys who are in charge of the likes of Genk. Rafa Benitez wouldn't be a bad shout but I suspect he would want a lot of money.

    * knows who the right guy is but there are guys in our club on big money who's job it is to identify that person and bring them in. It's an attractive job in my opinion, a guy can come in, make some good signings, win plenty of trophies, go down as a * legend for winning the 10, then he can * off into the sunset.
     
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  3. Twisty . Gold Member

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    May as well give up the search as it seems no manager available is capable of taking the team with the best current squad and best finances to domestic success :celtman2:
     
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  4. Jeremie Frimpong

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    @JC Anton

    What makes Lennon a safe bet?

    He let a league title slip out of his grasp with four games of the 2010-11 season remaining. (As @The IRA noted, this should be our nine-in-a-row season.)

    Rangers imploded during the 2011-12 season. In the 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons, Lennon's closest title challenger was Motherwell. Scottish football, in general, is more competitive now than it was then (between 2011-12 and 2013-14).

    Half of his European campaigns ended in humiliation, and his cup record is pitiful.

    He has accomplished nothing of note in almost five years. He left Hibernian floundering in eighth place in the Scottish Premiership just weeks ago, but he is a safe pair of hands?

    For me, Lennon's appointment on a permanent basis would be a mistake. I have no desire to see us win ten league titles in a row, only to find ourselves back where we started.

    I can understand your reservations about foreign managers though. The names that I mentioned were just options to consider. All of those managers outperformed us in Europe this season with meagre resources at their disposal. All of their clubs expect to challenge for domestic honours. I believe that at least some of them could make the step up seemlessly.
     
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    This is exactly why chelsea signed him... howd that work out? Spurs too.

    This harping on about his porto record is completely irrelevant. Have a look at the side he was handed ffs. Same as zenit.

    Then look when he has a rebuild on his hands... twice its cost him his job.
     
  6. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    He's left us with a record wage bill and his 2 first choice CBs away, an ageing RB our prize asset at only decent lb run into the ground. In fact in nearly 3 years he has added very little saleable assets to our team. A team nearly full of loans and players he has inherited. We are going to need big investment into the squad next. Thank * he didn't get to waste another £9million on McKenna
     
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  7. Jeremie Frimpong

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    Why are people talking about us as if we are in a precarious position?

    We are in an unprecedented position of strength, both on and off the field. We should be looking for someone who can take us to the next level, not someone to claw us over the line.
     
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  8. TeazyWeazy

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    You forgot the seven trophies, the double treble, the invincible season, the humblings of the Hun, the sold out stadium and the record profits.

    Rodgers was an * to leave when he did but the team being full of loans is Peter Lawwell's fault. He refused to finance the player's Rodgers wanted and messed up the transfers of guys like McGinn who was desperate to come to Celtic. Rodgers didn't want a team full of loans. He wanted to.sign players like Piccinni and McGinn. Guys with lots of game time under their belts. Lawwell wanted to sell our assets, being in short term loans and shop in the bargain bucket.

    It looks like some want us to head back to having no ambition permanently.
     
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  9. JML67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Exactly. Financially as strong as we've ever been in our history, basket case of a rival club who can't compete no matter how much debt they rack up. Scottish dominance shouldn't even be a measure of the new managers success imo.

    We have to try and get out of that mindset that we achieve all we can at home so we're doing okay. Europe MUST be the barometer. And we should look to the club's of our stature who are outperforming us both in the CL groups and EL knockouts.
     
  10. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Time to EndThePLC mini then.
     
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    We've searched high and low, but we couldn't find a foreigner with mental strength. They're all like Manuel out of fawlty towers.

    everybody else, was a *, a snake, a liar, and a charlatan.

    Lenny is the only man with the pedigree to navigate an spl season.
     
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    You misspelled rat *.
     
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  13. Jeremie Frimpong

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    :giggle1:
     
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    No I forgot * all.

    If I have nothing bad to say about the snake then I'll say nothing at all
     
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    Think we could do worse than AVB to be honest. One thing that concerns me most about appointing Lennon is the decrease in appeal for players to join us in comparison with Rodgers. I think it will be difficult to replicate that but AVB would have more of a pull in my opinion. People talking about him losing his jobs in England; don't really get that argument. Not many managers keep their jobs for very long.
     
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  16. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    This.

    All this talk about pressure as well. There’s far more pressure on the Huns than there is us about doing the 10.
     
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    Can't see AVB coming here mainly as he'd want a decent transfer fund and his wages as well would probably be the same, if not more than what BR was on.
     
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    You wanted Lenny to be given the job to replace Deila in 2016 when he left Bolton at the bottom of the table.

    I think you got it badly wrong then and you're getting it badly wrong now.

    It"s that sort of lack of ambition that will cost us.
     
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    The funny thing is I remember people saying this during that mobs 9 in a row, nothing is a gimme especially with our full defence needing a rebuild. This is a huge summer for us.
     
  20. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Don't get me wrong, I welcome the thoroughness, probably more thorough than we'll actually be in reality.

    Every appointment will come with risk.. managing Celtic is unique in lots of ways.. you have to dominate domestically by playing attractive football whilst making a step-up in class effectively in Europe, live in West of Scotland bubble and deal with a worldwide fanbase. It takes a certain individual to make a success of it. Appointing the manager of Genk for example would be too much of risk.

    I'm unsure on Lenny, 30/70 after being 50/50 a lot for me will be how we finish the season and whether he can win the Cup and secure a treble. He has shown the mental toughness to manage us and then some tho. So that won't be an issue.

    I'm in two minds about having someone so emotionally wrapped up in what it means is a good thing or not for decision making tho as the pressure of the next two seasons build.

    An ambitious appointment like some you have mentioned, would need a defined change to our structure with a blueprint set down by DOF etc.. as mentioned before.

    Maybe this isn't the time for an overhaul in strategy, maybe it is.. but as long as PL is pulling the strings an AVB type is needed and if not Lenny will the least risky as he has delivered success for the Club.

    If he doesn't deliver the Treble, then we may need to look at the likes of Steve Clarke.
     
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