Celtic’s next permanent manager

Depends what way you look at it. A lot of the players have rallied behind him making it a little easier. Hearts and Huns game showed that.

Doesn’t excuse the bad results. John Kennedy and Stevie Woods are there so we have some continuity from the Rodgers era. Ok we don’t have Rodgers making in game changes, but they know that team inside out. There was never going to be a dramatic drop.

 

Lenny's record when he was manager for 4 years was two trophies in a row. Once.

Rodgers was a far more effective manager for Celtic. Trying to compare records over 6 league games is laughable.

 

My problem is someone comparing an interim manager who’s been here for 7 games and a guy who was here for 2 and three quarter seasons. When the interim manager hasn’t done anything outstanding compared to the old manager. It’s strange to me.

 

I never compared him I pointed out that Rodgers apart from his first season had some shocking performances aswell, the exact same thing people are moaning like * about under Lennon.

 

I think you underestimate just how huge a presence Brendan was at our club. Penny getting guys to rally behind him is a major plus point, he gets backing off of his team and they give him everything.

John Kennedy is just not Brendan Rodgers mate, either is Stevie Woods.

There could have very easily been a major drop off.

 

Okay, so we’re no longer looking at what Lennon’s done in his current spell as manager and now focusing on what they both accomplished during their time here. Fine.

It’s fair to say they both inherited very, very different situations and were backed to very different degrees. I don’t think it’s an understatement to say Lennon inherited the worst Celtic side (on paper at least) in the post-MON era. He was able to completely rebuild that side on an extremely limited budget. I think people are forgetting just how terrible we were when he stepped in.

Was he less consistent domestically than Rodgers? Absolutely.

Was he backed to the same degree Rodgers was? Absolutely not.

Was he more successful in Europe in Rodgers? For me, yes, particularly when you take into account the squad he inherited and the relatively small transfer spend he was allowed to commit.

Again, I’m not saying any of this makes Lennon the man to take us forward after summer. We’ll have a process in place and we should follow it through.

The idea that he did anything less that a very good job during his first stint here, or that he’s struggled this time round is way off the mark for me. Particularly when you dig a litter deeper into the circumstances he’s faced each time he’s come into the managers seat.

 

So you are comparing them? I didn’t even mean you. You can’t compare almost 3 seasons to 7 games. You could go back and look at Lennon previous. There’s absolutely no point.

 

Find it mental how it seems to be the people who were the most vocal about the board not backing Brendan and lacking ambition all of a sudden want Lennon as manager.

 

Milojević's European record at Crvena Zvezda

2017-18

Europa League Qualifying Rounds:

Floriana - 3-0, 3-3
Irtysh Pavlodar - 2-0, 1-1
Sparta Praha - 2-0, 1-0
Krasnodar - 2-1, 2-3

Europa League Group Stage:

Arsenal - 0-1, 0-0
BATE Borisov - 1-1, 0-0
Köln - 1-0, 1-0

Europa League Round of 32:

CSKA Moskva - 0-0, 0-1

2018-19

Champions League Qualifying Rounds:

Spartak Jūrmala - 2-0, 0-0
Sūduva Marijampolė - 3-0, 2-0
Spartak Trnava - 1-1, 2-1
Red Bull Salzburg - 0-0, 2-2

Champions League Group Stage:

Paris Saint-Germain - 1-4, 1-6
Liverpool - 2-0, 0-4
Napoli - 0-0, 1-3

 

Perhaps, maybe...it might be possible that....they think Lennon is actually quite good

 

Ok call it what you will, but I have sat through some utter dire performances by Celtic sides the last two seasons. My point being that this is not an exclusive problem to just a Celtic side under Lennon, but people have selective memories when it suits them.

 

I was anticipating some sort of drop off tbh. If someone could come in and immediately get a very successful Rodgers created side playing better than Rodgers himself it would’ve been brilliant, but also not realistic.

 

He was a success when he was here previous. But not to the degree Rodgers was. He’s inherited a pretty good team here and we are getting things done but it’s ugly. Tbf it was ugly while Rodgers was here too in the end. He’s the man I wanted for an interim because last time he did that we went unbeaten. He’s a good man manager and he can get a team up for it. But he’s not the man to take us forward. Comparing his results to Rodgers is futile.

 

Would be ironic if we went for him considering he put Salzburg out of the champions league this season. Also I bet Salzburg go for him.

 

So giving Rodgers £60m a year isn’t ambitious, but appointing Lennon as manager is?

 

So have I, so much so I didn’t even go on Saturday. I’m even considering whether it’s worth renewing. I probably will, but there’s nothing pulling me in.

People are going to have selective memories on both sides of the argument.

 

When the * did we give Rodgers £60m?

 

Or because he beat Barca 7 years ago and that’s what people like to think of his first spell.

Forgetting the abysmal cup record and the other 3 seasons in Europe (well 2, because one year we got pumped out of the CL and EL qualifiers).

Lennon did a fine job the first time around. But we can absolutely find a better manager than him if the board look for one.

 

Fair enough, but you will know the lack of good performances has been there since Rodgers second season. Yes we all have different ideas of the best way forward for our club, but I would renew mate I am and I miss loads of games due to shift work. No matter who gets the job we the fans need to get behind them for the push to 10.

 

When did I say giving Rodgers £60m a year wasn’t ambitious?

I think the board and Rodgers * up immensely this past summer and some of the decisions we nothing short of horrendous (the Boyata situation) and reeked of a complete lack of preparation/professionalism.

But he was on the whole very well backed relative to other recent managers.