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Neil Lennon

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by romeo9535, Apr 17, 2016.

Discuss Neil Lennon in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. AwesomeCaz

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    Think he knows he's not getting the job and is merely a stopgap, so isn't giving his all and the players clearly aren't performing at 100% for him.

    Tbf though I see no tangible difference between our play under Rodgers and Lennon. We've been largely poor to watch for 18+ months but are still sweeping aside all with ease.
     
  2. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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  3. Sgt Neppers*

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    Lennon has hit the glass ceiling in terms of his coaching ability. We made advances massively under BR with his philosophy and technology/sport sciences dept.

    This is what we need to continue with. Lenny has served his purpose and is a legend in himself. But as a club we've progressed a lot in his time away. This needs to continue with a new management structure. Hope PL has something up his sleece soon regarding this or we facing a rocky start to the 2020 with qualifiers etc.
     
  4. Mince.Charming

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    I don't think some of you's will be happy who ever the Manager is tbh.
    It's like you's enjoy seeing any negatives so yous can jump on it.

    We are in a brilliant position.
    We have been finding it hard to break down teams all season.
    We have one striker and he likes to drift out wide, not exactly the best when breaking teams down.
    Still haven't replaced Dembele (bayo?) And miss Griffiths big time.
     
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  5. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Changed the shape and it didn’t work, too laboured and lacked real width with no overlapping full backs..

    Players don’t seem to be responding to him..
     
  6. McChiellini..

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    We've had late winner's so that contradicts us a touch but it's crossed my mind the player's know he isn't getting the job..
     
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    We haven't been sweeping anyone aside with ease since Lenny took over. That's the problem.
     
  8. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    Some people will defend performances under him regardless of how poor they are. If it was anyone other than Lennon they'd be getting hammered for it.

    Club legend, sure. But not the right man to take the club forward.
     
  9. clonbhoy

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    We went through similar periods this season under Rodgers, although we were more clinical at home under him. I still think a lot of the blame lies with Rodgers, that's not absolving Lenny entirely, but the players seem to have this belief that just keeping the ball is enough and I think that is going to be very hard to shake off. We have been struggling and just getting by for most of this season.
     
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  10. moravcik1888

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    Im not decided whether Lennon should be permanent manager but lets not rewrite history and pretend Celtic had been playing scintillating football up until Rodgers left, in fact we've been pretty average this season with some poor performances. For example we won away at Tynecastle recently but there were people unhappy with the performance and seemed to assume we would have won that match with ease under Rodgers, the truth is we may not have even won that match under Rodgers. Some people should be careful what they wish for, bringing in a new manager can be a huge gamble, just remember we have 10 in a row to win, Lennon might not be everyone's cup of tea but he knows how to win titles.
     
  11. TeazyWeazy

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    Drawing two games out of three at home and relying on last minute winners away against teams like Dundee is a risky way to try and win titles.
     
  12. jocksteinupper

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    Some over reaction in here!! Listen I was about 90/10 in favour of him getting it but probably about 50/50 now.

    From the start of this season I wasn't convinced with the snake's sides either. So, to an extent he's inherited guys that were underperforming anyway!! He's just not really kicked it on although he's got decent results on the whole.

    I wouldn't haven't been convinced about winning at Easter Road last round or the semi either under the snake

    Neil's getting hammered for whatever he's saying the now. It's just clichés and i've heard worse up till he took over!!
     
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  13. moravcik1888

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    It may be, but we got the last minute winners and Neil Lennon would be justified in saying none of those players are his signings, he's doing his best with a group of players that were abandoned by their manager 2/3rd's of the way through the season. We stand 2 titles away from 10 in a row, im very apprehensive over bringing in an untested manager, it has the potential to back fire horrendously. We know what we're getting with Lennon and providing the board give him some decent money he has what it takes to win 10 in a row.
     
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  14. Idioteque I’ll laugh until my head comes off

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    I'm worried that his hesitance to change things is making him only make little changes to the wrong things at the wrong time, rather than just trusting himself to fix the problems he can see.

    He says in the interview there that we're too slow, too many passes, too many aimless crosses and nobody getting on the end of those balls.

    All of those are true - yet he doesn't seem to be doing much of anything about it. Hayes plays more, in a wide advanced role to swing in loads of crosses - to nobody. After an hour or so he tells Forrest to play more centrally.

    That's it. That's the extent of changes he makes. It's like he's intimidated by a system that he feels is better than him as a coach, scared any changes he makes will be for the worse.

    Instead we're getting the opposite, we seem a bit aimless and it might be because Rodgers isn't there to re-explain the point of the system or highlight where it's going wrong.

    Weird thing is it's not like Lennon to shy away from taking charge. He is the guy to fix the obvious problems, set pieces at the very least, he just needs to step up rather than this passive caretaker thing he's doing now.
     
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  16. Leone Naka Fan

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    My main gripe with Rodgers was the awfully negligent approach to all matters of the defense, particularly in Europe. In attack, we were good for much of the time, however overreliance on a specific type of football was an issue against bunker teams.
    This is continuing under Lennon. If he wants to be the permanent manager, he should implement personnel changes to enable a more direct approach to defenses from the 1. minute. Specifically, Hayes deserves a main XI spot. Odsonne must be benched if he insists on drifting everywhere away from the box.
     
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  17. Bob Loblaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    Define untested. Rodgers was "untested" in a Scottish football context.
     
  18. Idioteque I’ll laugh until my head comes off

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    It’s a odd place for him to find himself in, lefts not forget that. We were all buzzing with Rodgers, perhaps some self entitlement has crept in. We have won it all and expect to win more. We were a fractured team from the start of this season. Combination of injuries, scandals, fallouts with Brendan and the board. Lennon has came in and went about his job. The man deserves time to make a change. Radical overhaul needed and I’d trust Lennon over some punt on some project. Can’t afford another Deila type appointment
     
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    He's in a catch 22 to an extent!! He's stated he wasn't going to change anything or if he did they would be minimal!! So now it looks like we're back to early season type form. If he does change it noticeably and it backfires then well you know!!

    I think he's going to have to be more bold with his own ideas if he can from now on. Interesting he said there we overplay it too much sometimes which i happen to agree with!! Well you're in the box seat Lenny Bhoy!!
     
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  20. moravcik1888

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    Rodgers was as close as a 'tested' manager you could get outwith a manager who had proved himself in the job previously. I doubt we are capable of getting a manager like Rodgers again, as much as it pains me to say it we knew what we were getting with him, a guy who very nearly won the EPL with Liverpool. We all knew he could handle the Celtic job, thats why thousands turned out at Parkhead on his arrival.

    Who are we going to go for? A foreign manager? unless you're talking about a top level manager who we cant attract anyway, that is untested. Some have mentioned Steve Clarke, he's done a good job at Kilmarnock but could he handle a job the size of Celtic, I have my doubts.

    Some have mentioned Marco Rose at Salzburg who has apparently committed himself to another club, and I you would be bringing in a manger who knows nothing about Scottish football, he has done well at Salzburg (although they have never qualified for the CL) but could he handle the Celtic job, who knows.

    Do we want and up and coming manger? Again, that is a gamble, could go either way. Nobody can guarantee Lennon would be a 100% success but we know he has what it takes to win titles, hes tried and tested. We are on the verge of 10 in row, titles is what we need.

    If you dont want Lennon give me a name that you would be confident would not backfire on us and put 10 in a row in jeopardy.