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Peter Lawwell

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by eddiebhoy0109, Jan 13, 2015.

Discuss Peter Lawwell in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    And the rest
     
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  2. Bunk Moreland

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    Have you ever thought that just maybe those targets clubs might have been asking well over the market value for those players?, Or they didn't want to sell? Or their wage demands were too high? Or they simply didn't want to come? All perfectly common reasons why football clubs miss out on transfer targets but somehow, without any proof whatsoever, you seem to believe Lawwell and the board are doing it on purpose.

    Ledley was offered a contract, he's said so himself, he was going to sign it, Celtic accepted an offer from Crystal Palace and he chose to go to the EPL. You have no knowledge of why Samaras was punted but again blame Lawwell without anything to back it up.

    Hooper was sold with a year left on his contract and didn't want to sign a new one as he wanted to try the EPL, Wanyama was sold because like Hooper he wanted to try the EPL.

    He "tried to shove" Ronny Deila on Lennon because he was to become the next Celtic manager and wanted him to gain experience of the club and Scottish football before he took over.

    He backed snake Rodgers more than any of the previous 4 Celtic managers, he even agreed to install a £2m hybrid pitch on snake's insistence. The last manager to be backed as much as snake was Martin O'Neill which was a risky speculate to accumulate strategy that put the club in debt but thankfully paid off.
     
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  3. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Cool.
     
  4. Whoflungdung

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    Whats mediocre about Celtic we have to live within our means, mind you I accept that certain "fans" have over inflated expectations that can never be met , the type of "fan" who booed McCann.................
     
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  5. AD_1888

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    We have £36m currently in the bank (which will have grown substantially come the summer accounts).

    We're doing a bit more than just living within our means. Do you not think Peter Lawwell's current salary and bonus is a bit risky?
     
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    Would agree on Lawwells salary and bonus but if we posted losses or near break evens, I dont suppose he would be around for long ?
     
  7. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    The Samaras situation was he wanted to stay and wasn’t asking for ott wages, but in his and Lennon’s words the decision was taken not to keep him.
     
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    Because we have £36m in the bank doesn't mean we should blow £20m of that, that money is there to ensure we stay in rude financial health for the foreseeable future, it's our safety net.

    Peter Lawwell is paid the average salary for a man of his position in any big company. His bonuses are performance related, basically he gets them if he meets the targets set by the board of directors or in other words if he does his job well.
     
  9. FATLAZYBHOY Born in the steamie Gold Member

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    You pay top dollar for a top executive
    We're lucky to have him.


    And if it wasn't for the fact that he's a huge celtic fan he would have been of to arsenal are few seasons back for much more money.
    Got to remember, he runs a club not a team.
     
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  10. Bunk Moreland

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    Was he sold to free up wages in the budget for new signings perhaps? Was he looking for too long a contract? It's like I said we don't know the reason why he was let go.
     
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    This in itself is horrible. He is setting up some newbie when Lennon is doing the job very well, and forces this decision. That alone should have been enough for a media scandal.

    As for other things- why did we accept offers for crucial players just like that? There was no effort to keep them. Not to mention the clubs we sold the players to. Hooper couldn't be tempted to stay over * Norwich? I can't possibly buy that one. Crystal Palace?? Ledley was loving it here. And Wanyama could've been told to stay put until the likes of Manchester U or C came. With his performances, that would have happened, but Lawwell was hasty and greedy.

    Also, why does Lawwell have that much more power than succesful managers who have good arguments why a player should be signed at all costs? We aren't financially troubled. I know I'd listen to Lennon if he told me player XY is a must-buy, after Lennon delivered a win over Barca with the team he constructed.
     
  12. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Aye for someone so clearly under qualified and lacking in experience he has made a real mess of it .. and imagine that idiot Dermot Desmond not realising this before now either eh ...
     
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    He wasn’t sold for starters, and Lennon wanted to keep him.
     
  14. Bunk Moreland

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    Why is it horrible? The previous two successful Celtic managers MON and WGS stayed for 5 and 4 years respectively, Lennon was going into his 5th year, we were planning for the future and trying to ensure that thd next manager who was relatively inexperienced in both being a manager and Scottish football could hit the ground running.

    You can't tempt players who want to leave, it's as simple as that. These players aren't Celtic fans, they have no emotional attachment to Celtic bar the fact that they played with us for a few years. Norwich and Crystal Palace were EPL clubs at the time, if they play well
    there then a move to a bigger EPL club is a lot more realistic, look at Wanyama to Spurs and VVD to Liverpool after going to Southampton it was the perfect stepping stone for them. Those two clubs along with the other top 6 clubs want EPL proven players, they have a * opinion of Scottish football, they will very rarely buy direct from us.

    Lawwell has the power because we have a transfer and wage budget set each season by the board of directors. It's his job to make sure we operate within these budgets.
     
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    I'm not sure what some people think would happen if Lawell was suddenly removed from his position, 99% chance is he'd be replaced by another random businessman/accountant type, because that's what the job requires, not some fairytale mad fan that throws money at the playing squad and says to * with his actual targets and responsibilities to shareholders and board.

    His job is to balance the books and keep us financially sound long term operating in a * market, we're not always going to like it but that's the way it is, the job really isn't going to change with a different man doing it.
     
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    But that's not a reason, it's simply Lenny saying he wanted to keep him. I'm sure there was a genuine reason there rather than Peter Lawwell couldn't be * with him:giggle1:
     
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    Celtic will have just under £8 million from this seasons participation in both UEFA comps NOT including marketing and tv revenue or from Scottish bonus payments made to SFA.

    The huns will get just under £5 million rom this seasons participation in UEFA Europa league NOT including marketing and tv revenue or from Scottish bonus payments made to SFA.
     
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    He wasn’t offered a contract when the manager wanted to keep him, I’d say that’s others coming into play on the footballing side of things. Oh and he still wasn’t sold was he?
     
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    So you're justifying a gamble here. Someone who has no familiarity with Scotland, and is inexperienced in general- being forced on a successful manager. I think that was a horrible idea.

    Wanting to leave is not absolute every time. Norwich and Southampton aren't in any way huge clubs. Players who are good enough could move to the bigger clubs directly, with time. And I don't care about the opinion of EPL clubs when we have had history of beating them in Europe. Lawwell failed to protect the club's interests here, and he failed Lennon, when he sold crucial players too hastily. Not to mention the lack of replacements.

    In a successful club, a manager who proves his worth should be the most powerful figure, not the CEO. It's about football, afterall.

    I see you here defending Lawwell's decisions. Yet on another thread you mention he'd likely enjoy appointing Wenger, "who even with EPL money is tighter than a duck's *."
    So you know where the problem is. I am sad that Rodgers' actions have managed to protect Lawwell's position in the eyes of the fans, so he survives, yet again.
     
  20. Bunk Moreland

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    Sold or let go is pretty much irrelevant to the point I was suggesting that it could be to free up wages for new signings.

    But why wasn't he offered a contract? Did Lawwell give Lenny a choice between Samaras and the above possible reasons I've put forward? Did he just not like Samaras and wanted him out? We really don't know this, which was the entire point of my original reply to Leone Naka Fan.