Brendan Fraudgers!

There was a point early on in the game where some * took a swipe at Broonie. It wasn't picked up on commentary but suggested two things to me. 1 They were trying to wind Broonie up. 2 They knew they could get away with as, as you and Matt say there doesn't seem to be anyone in our team that is going to rise to the physical challenge and give a bit back. People take liberties with us as they know they can get away with it. Domestically that is partly down to referees but also partly down to our players not challenging it themselves.

 

True that we had CM at left back but they never allowed brown any space to take the ball and turn. On top of him at every oportunity.

Yeah true, they are gona be packed with centre mids.

The bottom line is that if we turn up we blow them away but it the team cant tet motivated for Rangers or a europa tie vs valencia then its a bit concerning

 

100%..

Part of the reason why Broony was targeted massively last season was 1. They thought he was done and 2. He was the only player in our side who mixed it really and they were taking turns getting it up him..

I agree the official's have a lot to answer for but if we occasionally took out the likes of Naismith, Bowman, Shinnie, Imrie, MacLean and any of these other diddies who are notoriously in to us.....they'd 100% be more reluctant flying in to thing's as cockily..

 

Tierney has been the baby in the team and normally you would expect teammates to take care of him yet nobody seems to give a * if he is hacked down left right and centre.

 

He's the only other player that doesn't take it..

 

ronny delila , tony mowbray , even a 3 time french league winner paul le guen have all came here in spl and went with their tail between their legs.

Lennon and Strachan had a bit of nous and obviously Martin Oneill but what were witnessing is unheard of in domestic terms.

 

Then why did you say "if you think any old manager can come in and do that your wrongly mistaken"

 

same definition, * think bringing in steve clarke and lennon back is going to improve things, improve on what exactly ? guy has won every trophy going.

 

Your not wrongly mistaken there. I think

 

Domestically nobody can deny the fact that so far BR has given us every competition entered and on course for hopefully the treble treble.

However for me it's the quality of play we are currently watching that is of concern and lack of any real progress in Europe. It's almost as if we've reached a level where just getting into the CL group stages is enough and accept a drop down into the EL will keep us happy. I'm not convinced to be honest BR is the man to take us forward in Europe and if he does go could we even afford to bring in someone with that something extra needed for Europe and still reign supreme domestically?

 

Tbf to Gerrard he has players

It’s the players who want to come and develop under him, I think he’s a big attraction for players and clubs.

Someone like Steve Clarke could set us up effectively in Europe but BR is untouchable domestically and pretty much everyone would be a downgrade..hopefully he stays for the 10 for to change would be a massive gamble.

 

Gone this year I think and Clarke will probably end up with the job.

 

Not got an issue with us developing players but when those being developed are not good enough for European progress then is developing them to keep us top of the tree domestically enough?

No guarantee Steve Clarke or any other manager can get us to where we want to be in Europe I know but being someone who was brought up in the Lisbon Lions era I still dream of us being a force again. On our day at home yes we have done it but the point being not consistently enough- well not for me anyway.

Agreed any manager after BR is going to struggle to emulate Brendan's success and spot on with the financial gap in Europe. Sadly that isn't something we are going to be able to compete against for the foreseeable future and perhaps not ever.

Regarding better teams embarrassing us yeah those have been very sore ones to take and could / should be avoidable as you say with tweeks. Have to wonder why though he doesn't do it?

 

I am probably being even annoying from repeating this comment always, but, if the financial gap between us and the top teams of the biggest leagues has never been greater, so is the financial gap between us and the rest of Scotland.

Yet losing in Europe is just a given, but winning in Scotland is a great achievement.

Even Ronny, a quite likeable and humble fella but that was basically an intern learning how to do this job won all scottish leagues while here.

Sure we can't completely dismiss that, but claiming no other manager could be successful domestic... honestly, most managers could and should.

 

Two points,1st, we all keep hearing people say we've needed a centre half and full back for the past 2 years at least.
Is it not possible that Brendan has asked the board to push the boat out for a certain player and he's been snubbed?
Surely the board knew we needed 2 top players yet only one was brought in and a loan at that,it's not as if we are a poor club.
2nd point,did anyone notice that whenever Izzy and Sinky were out wide,Valencia had 5 players within a 30/40 feet radius.
Whenever the ball was shifted to the other side and Jerry and Forry were out wide,again Valencia moved their 5 players out to combat any threat,it happened time and time again.
Common sense tells you to have a coach at each end of the main stand watching how they operate,therefore make the required changes asap.

 

I couldn't stomach looking at that miserable * coupon every week..

 

To be fair in getting BR we were punching above our weight, so reckon next time back to normal imho ....