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Brendan Fraudgers!

Discussion in 'World Football' started by Mr. Slippyfist, May 20, 2016.

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  1. Jacob knows

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    Actually * that.

    Doesn't matter if he's won 77 trophies in a row.

    That doesn't mean he'll never have anything to prove

    Any amount of situations could arise where he finds himself in a position where he has to 'prove' something.

    He should have to 'prove' that he is better equipped to be trusted with large sums of money in the tranfer market, because we have seen some utter *!!

    Or because he has won 7 trophies in a row do the board just let him have at it?
     
  2. Jacob knows

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    That being said, I'll slightly contradict myself and say i hope and pray he's here for 10, because he's one of best, if not thee best manager I've had the pleasure of leading us onto the pitch. Long may it continue
     
  3. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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    You are contradicting yourself there.

    We have seen * because of the market we operate in. That will always be the case when we shop in the 1-3 million bracket.

    The only way he can prove himself is to build a team capable of winning domestic trophies and turning 1 in 5 of his signings into a multi million pound asset.

    He has done both with style.

    If anything Brendan has already proved he can be trusted with a higher transfer kitty.
     
  4. Jacob knows

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    Aye i suppose so mate.

    You cannae really argue when we've been watching guys like Dembele,N'tcham,Roberts,Edouard etc.....but it's half two and the game doesn't start til 3 and I cannae find any new news or rumours to read!!
     
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  5. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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    Half an hour until the game starts? Yaldi
     
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    Sorry, but again Rodgers is chatting bullshit.

    Congertons performance at Celtic is * indefensible.

    The fact that he had to reference 2 * signings for chelsea to justify his position HERE is prepostrous. Also convinient that he didnt reference his term at sunderland, where he was directly responsible for signing Ger-maine daHoe, * jack rodwell and alvarez, on absolute crazy money and running the club into the ground. just as funny he doesnt mention compper, musonda or * hendry.

    The guys a * snake oil salesman and if this is the best rodgers can do to justify the pish hes signed hed be better to just shut the * up.
     
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  8. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Happy Birthday Boss..

    Most successful Celtic manger a lot of us have seen and will ever see..
     
  9. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Hopefully, after BR insisting he has final say on signings, we will see less of some of the more outlandish bullshit being blamed on the board here now. Although if I was BR it would suit me to distance myself from some of the dross signed tbh.
     
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    I find it hard to agree with Brendan there TBH.

    Firstly, sure, it's hard to get in quality on a budget, but smaller teams than Celtic do it better than us. No need to look further than RB Salzburg for an example.

    Secondly, I don't think the budget is even the problem. The money is there and we have now shown that we are willing to spend it. I've said it before, but I see no reason to change my mind: given that we have the money and are willing to invest it in the players, as far as I can see it still looks like the problem is that the board don't trust the investments Brendan's guy is proposing. About the only one that looks like it might have been the board's fault is the McGinn thing.

    Thirdly, I fnd it hard to blame the board for not having the confidence to invest large sums of money on Congerton's recommendations, especially regarding defenders. It seems likely that Ntcham and Edouard were Lawwell's baby, given his links to PSG and Man City; Ronny has stated that we were already after Dembele before Congerton ever darkened our door... if that is true (which I believe), Congerton's record here is shocking.

    Fourthly, Brendan saying he has final say: what does that mean? Does it mean these bad signings are his? Does it mean he has a veto on Congerton's more egregious suggestions?

    Fifthly, Congerton may or may not have a great track record at megabucks Chelsea (I don't know); but looking for gems on a budget at Sunderland and Celtic is a totally different skill and, I'm sorry, but all the evidence is that he sucks at it. His record at Chelsea isn't relevant.

    Rodgers has an astonishing record here domestically. It's worthwhile putting up with all this bullshit to keep him if possible: he's that good a manager. But to be clear, it is a case of putting up with it. When Rodgers does go (I hope it's not for a long time yet, but realistically that's not clear), we need Congerton out and a good head scout and DoF in to work with the new manager.
     
  11. Ciaran_67

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    That analysis doesn’t make sense.

    His management of the players at training and in games is what has won us 7 consecutive trophies. Peter Lawwell
    wasn’t exactly the mastermind in securing a double treble.
     
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    But Pedro still creamed a £2.3m bonus of Brendan and the teams success!
     
  13. Jeremie Frimpong

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    It does.
     
  14. Jacob knows

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    Brendan is the reason we've won 7 trophies in a row. I'm all for opinions and debates, but to suggest he isn't responsible, or at least largely responsible for this is ludicrous and baffling. The evidence is right in front of our eyes. Under several managers we turned out some of the worst performances at hampden. He sorted that out. He is the man responsible for bringing the excitement back among the fans.

    Sure, he is not beyond criticism, but he has done an absoloutely fantastic job and I hope he still has our unwavering support.

    No way the board take the 'credit' for the 7 trophies in a row. NO WAY!!!
     
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    To understand his post, you'd need to read the previous page. He's trying to make a point. He knows Brendan is behind our success, he's trying to pull Brendan up on things he has said previously to try and distance himself (in Vert's view) from responsibility for our transfer failings.

    I don't know why he doesn't just tell you that TBH. He's a good poster, but when he's on one, he's on one.
     
  16. Ciaran_67

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    It doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny is, perhaps, a better way of putting it.

    Unless that post has been made with some degree of jest or sarcasm involved.
     
  17. Ciaran_67

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    I think that Brendan does not have anywhere near as much control in transfers than some may think.

    The signing of this new Ukranian boy helps to evidence this. The summer transfer window left Brendan very far from content too.

    Brendan fully understands that we need players in certain positions. For example RB and CB. The board, for me, are not sanctioning the type of signing that he wants in this position.

    As a result of this, he has got to manage the media and his players accordingly. He is hardly going to come out in the media and say X player is not good enough or Y position needs strengthening. He has said that his squad is “very talented” and words to that effect as a way showing how he values our players.

    He is using fundamental principles of good management. He’s doing this in order to maintain the trust, respect and positive working relationship with the players that have won us 7 trophies on the bounce.

    Stating to throw players under the bus is what the likes of Gerrard do. And Neil Lennon at Hibs for that matter. It never ever ends well.
     
  18. Jeremie Frimpong

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    That’s right.

    How many times would you like me to explain it?

    First time:

    Second time:

     
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    Well, if you're going to continue using the same rhetorical device, then once per page should be enough. Otherwise you'll just keep getting attacked for things you didn't say.

    Maybe you could put it in your signature. :giggle1:
     
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  20. Ciaran_67

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    It is still an ambiguous piece of analysis for me.

    His responsibilities for negotiating transfers and sanctioning transfers are limited as far as I can see.

    That is the point at hand and what we are, ultimately, debating.

    I don’t get what managerial responsibilities he is “shrieking”. That’s quite an assessment to make without anything to evidence it.