Brendan Fraudgers!

Hi folks im new on this forum and don't really want to start with a negative post but i think its fair to ask questions of Brendan.Season 1 was awesome and beyond our wildest dreams ,but if were being honest season 2 was at times dismal to watch.I know we won the treble but at times our football was not great to watch, especially at home.The team managed to lift themselves when it really mattered thus the trophies were delivered again, but for me there was far too much chopping and changing of the team especially for the home league matches .Complacency?arrogance?who knows? but i fail to see why we have to rest 5/6 players at a time?This cost us a lot of points last season and this season i don't think we can afford to do that as i cant see rangers dropping as many points as they did last season.But it seems that patterns already started this season?Our first choice players are far too strong for the rest of the SPL but what we have in reserve is clearly not, certainly not when 5/6 are being brought in at a time.I can see the point of resting 1/2 periodically but no more than that.You don't see Barca chopping and changing 5/6 at a time and Messi is seldom if ever rested.As for our central defensive setup then Brendans had 2 years to sort that out and so far has failed.The man is a charismatic character and his domestic record so far is impeccable but hes not infallible and does have his faults.

 

That's nice.

 

If you dont rest or change players ,when you get injuries to 3 or more key players there is no one ready to step in with any first team experience ,players have to be tested in game conditions ,if your system is nailed then it should not cauz to much upset to our rythm .

 

City Watch

Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers was spotted at the Etihad Stadium for Manchester City’s 6-1 thrashing of Huddersfield Town today, raising speculation up north that he may be after another loan player.

City have already sent £800,000 new boy Daniel Arzani to Celtic on a two-year loan, but Rodgers is still active in the transfer market, and there are several City players who could be realistic targets for the former Liverpool boss.

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The first name that springs to mind is Douglas Luiz, the Brazilian midfielder who was recently denied a work permit to play in the Premier League. He might have more luck in Scotland, particularly after Arzani and Ghanaian youngster Thomas Agyepong, who joined hibs on loan, were granted permission to play in Scotland, despite being much less valuable talents than Douglas at this stage.

It is rumoured that Celtic are in the market for a centre-back, and highly-rated Philippe Sandler, City’s second-most expensive signing of the summer, could be available for loan if he recovers from surgery he underwent in May in time for a deal to be done.

Sandler, 21, is a centre-back capable of playing in holding midfielder and much is expected of him. Some have compared him to his compatriot Virgil van Dijk, who used to play his club football for Celtic.


A less realistic possibility to reinforce Celtic’s defence would be Eliaquim Mangala, who is also recovering from an injury that could impact whether he leaves the club before all of Europe’s transfer windows close. Mangala has previously snubbed moves to the likes of Crystal Palace, Stoke, West Brom and Spartak Moscow, so coupled with his injury, that makes a loan move to Celtic seem unlikely.

City have a host of exceptional young talents on their books who could be of interest to Celtic. Brahim Diaz has resisted a loan move to Girona FC, but currently isn’t making the City bench, unlike fellow youth product Phil Foden , and if there is a change in his thinking late in the transfer window, he could be a candidate to head to Glasgow for a year.

 

Possible reason Barca have gone out of Champions League in quarters for past 2/3 seasons? Burnout?

 

Should try n get that Aguero lad on loan. Him n griff up front will be unplayable.

 

Probably get De Bruyne ... 'cause he's * injured.

 

The man city link is actually becoming embarrassing. Yes we might get a decent prospect but that's all they are, prospects. And unlike Ntcham who we bought the rest of the time we're just developing a player who is not ours. We got an incredible talent in Roberts but at the end of the day he's moved on and we got nothing for him yet we helped develope him.

Every window it's the case of what * might we sign it and what man city prospect are we gonna get

 

im not saying dont rest players, im saying why rest 5/6 at a time?Cant think of many clubs who do that regularly? apart from the top EPL teams who put out pretty much reserve sides in the cup competitions, but then they always play their strongest available 11 in the league matches.

 

Guidetti
Boyata
Roberts
Ntcham
Denayer

they have yet to do us a bad turn.

Arzani so far coming in on top of that.

 

Aye tbf each of them has played some successful part when they where here

 

As it stands though only Boyata and Ntcham off that list are or have been our players outright. Not saying the standard is bad I was saying that it's becoming a constant that we rely on signing their prospects on loan.

Although one of them downed tools, Guidetti spat his dummy out and Denayer slated our league

 

Every deal we've done with City has been a successful deal for Celtic.

 

Aye worked great,both couldn't wait to get to * out of glasgow.

 

What an absolute * riddy. We are rapidly turning into a plastic club.

Just get Peter Lawwell to *. Celtic reduced to holding a paper cup out to Manchester City - and please, no * sit and tell me "that's fitba now".

The Lawwell dictatorship continues. Hope wee Mark gets a pat on the back at City.

 

They're the richest club in the world, and they're smashing every other team in the richest league in the world, and they're letting us borrow their players for a couple of years at a time.

This is a fantastic opportunity for Celtic. They're developing a great youth setup there and we're getting to use their talent.

There are virtually no downsides to this. It adds talented young players to our squad as well as enhancing our reputation as a great place to play football and develop talent.

Its that reputation that has allowed us to bring in guys like Odsonne and Moussa, and thats £30-40M worth of talent up front that goes to Celtic when these guys eventually move on. So its not like we don't make money out of this type of relationship.

Moneys ruined the game in many ways but its also opened up opportunities for clubs of a stature such as ours, and that allows us to position ourselves somewhere on the ladder just below these super-rich clubs such as Man City, Chelsea, PSG, and that in turn allows us to feed off them and accelerate our own clubs growth.

Its obviously not a one stop solution to all our transfer and recruitment issues, but it is an excellent asset to have at our disposal and we'd be daft not to use it.

 

It appears to be the only solution to our recruitment issues. It's not a solution anyway, we'll never progress with loans - how are we doing now Paddy Roberts is away? Denayer?

We are getting the dregs from City - we're not getting the soon-to-be superstars. Both Denayer and Roberts took time to develop and build up. Anyway, if the starting XI players we sign are largely only going to be loans, I want guys who are head and shoulders above what is already here - guys who will be in the City team within three years or so. That's not happening.

It's an absolute embarrassment, and so so plastic. It's also likely not the manager wanting these type of deals, as we've been going through Mark Lawwell to get loans from City before Rodgers was here.

 

Not sure what you're getting at here. Are you saying that Roberts and Denayer didn't improve the team? Or that you'd rather not have them at all than only have them temporarily?

Either way its a stupid suggestion. Both players done a great job for us. To use two of our most successful loan players in recent years as a stick to beat the club with is baffling.

The only real reason to be disappointed in our load deals from City is because we don't get to keep the players for longer, because so far all of them have improved the team in some way.

I don't where you're getting this idea from that all our signings are loan deals from either. We've usually got about 2/3 loan players in a squad of about 30. Hardly something to wet your knickers over.

Any speculation regarding Brendan's or Mark Lawwell's involvement in our loan deals is pure guesswork. There's no point in getting worked up over something that you've just invented in your head.

There are definitely valid reasons to be frustrated with our recruitment policy. But to * the bed over a business arrangement with football's wealthiest club isn't one of them.

 

It appears our 'big' signings will now be loan deals. It happened with Deila, and now seems to be beginning to happen with Rodgers. We will never progress as a football club with that policy.

We've had Champions League for the last two seasons, sold Armstrong and netted a hefty fee for Van Dijk going to Liverpool - there is absolutely no excuse not to go out and buy players.

It's a joke the way we are run. Peter Lawwell needs chased from his role of CEO and unofficial director of football.