Stadium Re-Development....A Good Idea? or Not?

So we will get better if we have * basic changing rooms?

 

Emirates is bigger than Celtic Park whereas we used to blow Highbury out the water. Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool will both surpass Celtic within a decade and countless other teams such as Atletico have already enlarged their stadiums. Plus Russian, Azerbaijani, Ukrainian, Turkish teams will/have all got brand spanking massive new arenas due to world cups/euros/billionaire owners.

Obviously you don't, but I care that Celtic Park is no longer one of the biggest in Europe and 2nd biggest in Britain. That was a massive PR boost and huge pull for us when attracting players. In the medium term we should look to add another few thousand seats.

Barcelona already have the biggest stadium by a mile, and they're adding thousands more seats. Strengthen from a position of strength.

We won't sell out every week but if we keep going well then in the 10 in a row season we could easily sell 80000 tickets a home game.

 

The Emirates is smaller - Google it.

Chelsea are locked in for 60k, Spurs 62k, Liverpool have just finished revamping to 54k - They wont be expanding anytime soon.

Sorry but Celtic aren't in the business of entering a * waving contest with billionaire Azerbaijanis or Putin's Russia looking to make 31 billion off the back of the World Cup.

We have a bigger stadium than Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Juventus, PSG, Lyon, Ajax amongst many others. We have the 10th highest average attendance in European football - I wouldn't be worrying about players losing interest in signing because Atletico Madrid have built a shiny new stadium - We aren't even in that likes stratosphere when it comes to signings.

You obviously see a monetary value that Lawwell and Desmond don't, Real Madrid have an +80k stadium and only average high 60's. Real Madrid.

 

Internazionale wanted their rooms to be basic, the idea was to focus on the football game ahead. There is nothing "*" about it.

 

According to wiki (I know) CP 60,355 Emirates 60,434. Emirates certainly felt a bit bigger when down there for a friendly years back.

It's more about bringing in much needed revenue to compete in Europe as opposed to waving *. We may be in the top 10 for attendances however we're nowhere near the top 30 in terms of cash, that means the stadium (and capacity) is absolutely vital as it's now the only way in which we're comparable with European elite.

It's pretty simple. Also Lawwell and Desmond clearly do care about how important stadium and facilities are as they're spending 4 million on upgrades this summer. Having the biggest and best ground we can is massively important when we're competing for players with EPL teams who can all offer treble our wages and transfer fees. Dembele for just one example wouldn't have came here if we had a mere 30-50000 seater like most of the Premiership. Our stadium is still huge but I don't think it's stupid to point out we need to keep up as within 10-20 years we could be left behind in both capacity and revenue.

Also we can sell more than Real because we're guaranteed to win our league every year and have i'd imagine far cheaper tickets. Also, i'd argue, far more loyal fans. The monetary value of increasing CP is obvious. Short term financial pain for long term gain. I never thought i'd see Celtic Park expanded but we're literally richer now than at any point in our history. Another CL qualification and a few big sales and we could easily have 100 million in the bank. Think about that, and tell me you wouldn't want a good chunk spent on giving us an elite top 10 ground again.

 

The Emirates capacity is 59,867, but it really is besides the point.

Dembele wouldn't of come here if our stadium was 50k instead of 60k? What are you talking about man..
We can sell more than Madrid because we are guaranteed to win every year? Where is this hyperbole coming from?

 

Liverpool have nice fancy changing rooms and they are in the champions league final.

So your argument is flawed

 

Liverpool's "new" changing room is pretty basic and old school. So that's not too bad.

 

What's wrong with * waving???

What a sentance!!

 

Oh ye Huns have something to cling onto on the cess pit swallow swallow!

Taking pictures of Celtic Park where we are getting the new panel and install of the sounds and light system:

“John Stevens is right that’s the HSE checking out the rust and it’s falling down, he was right again” - aye cause he was right about the state aid stuff.

“Aye few good bears I know buried time capsules in their stadium” - aye very good might find something about your deid club then

“Might find a few skeletons buried” - just can’t help themselves!!!!

 

You are * mental mate, I've seem crazy posts on here before but this takes the biscuit.

 

Why?

You telling me you wouldn’t love CP to be bigger?

Never seemed possible but we’re cash rich just now. Another CL campaign and a few big Van Dijk esque sales and well easily have enough for it. Museum, hotel, Celtic Way, new superstore.... expanding and improving the stadium is logically next on the agenda.

 

It's not logical because there just isn't the demand to fill Celtic Park every week as it is. If we were in the EPL or something we'd have no choice but to expand, but it would be a complete waste of money as things stand.

 

THIS!!!

Even though we have 52,000 ST holders the waiting list aint 20,000 not a chance total waste of cash to expand the stadium only if we get into a Euro Super League or something of that ilk would it then maybe worth considering!

 

Highest league attendance this year was 59,259 against Hibs. For Rangers it's about 1k short of that figure. We never ever get 60k these days but that's because of poor away attendances (in the main) and segregation.

In Europe, every ticket is sold but again, its around 58,300 maximum due to again, either poor away attendances, segregation or the Champions League advertising rules. There are hundreds of seats in CP with severely restrictive views, especially in the away corner.

Celtic have 5,500 currently on the waiting list. We could potentially increase CP to 65k now as it stands, (Still only 63k against Sevco and in Europe)

Mid week games and early League/Scottish cup rounds are always only going to see a half full stadium.

The "new" Celtic Park is old now, first game was August 1995 against Newcastle, although it wasn't for a further year until it was completed. What's the shelf life of a stadium these days?

We would easily sell another 5k+ tickets for the Champions league games and I'm sure an extra 10k alone against Rangers, even if that meant giving them an extra few thousand tickets.

Personally I'd like to see it increase now to 65-66k with the view of filling it in Europe and against Rangers/Aberdeen/Hibs and Hearts as they generally bring good away support. 70k is a pipe dream in the Scottish league though, we would need to move into the EPL or a European super league to make that work.

Talked about for years though and it doesn't look like it will ever happen.

 

Was actually July 1998 when stadium was completed and designed to last 40 years

 

Firstly, we don’t need to add to the capacity, it shouldn’t be done.

Secondly, if anything were to happen on this front, I envisage it would only be by a few thousand for general tickets and the main focus would be on hospitality, new boxes and generally updating the fat cat area.

 

I seen this the other day i was suprised as they where only chanhed maybe 4 years ago so i dont know why they are changing it again

Knew they would use it as an excuse to take pics and make stuff up do ypu have the link

 

Of course if it was plausible. Its more your reasoning to do it is * mental.

We only get sell outs for European games, flag day, lifting the trophy and against those *. If we sold out majority of games I’d agree that the demand is there, its not just now though. We’d be spending a huge amount of money for a bigger attendence for a handful of games.

Only way that would ever happen is if we joined the EPL, which will never happen anyway.