Brendan Fraudgers!

Brendan has a decision to make this summer. Do I stay or do I go? He will not emulate last season again. If an offer comes in he will be gone. If he wants to stay in football management I believe this will be his last year with us. He would have took the Arsenal job last summer. He was close to getting that. It came down to a split on the Arsenal board to keep Wenger. At present his stock is going down. It's not gone down too far but he will consider if I stay another year with us what benefit will that do to future jobs??

 

My mistake. 33 in June. Since 2013 he has only played 90 odd games

 

personally i think hes here to go for the 10 and that will be the boards thinking too ..if we do well or bad in europe fine as long as we qualify for CL ..if he doesn't get the 10 he will go.

 

Should have had them going out with much more belief after playing them off the park last week.

Seems to often struggle to motivate them against anyone with a bigger budget.

 

Yeh wots wrong with the glssgow way ,"these c#nts think their better that you ,just because they cost more money " lets show them their money means * all on that pitch out there .

 

Replacing Rodgers is not the way forward. Scouting players like in Lennon's time is. Wanyama, Ki, Van Dijk etc. The tactics v better sides need to improve as well.

 

Last sentence is like bit of a politicians statement .... sorry Brendan you won't pull the wool over my eyes we were not better in europe this season fact is we had three better performances last season all be it draws against in my eyes two wins this season

Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk

 

I think Brendans Achilles heel throughout his time at both Liverpool and now ourselves, is his lack of organisation of the defensive line and in goal.

There are numerous stated cases at Liverpool when they threw away games where they had lead and this was a factor which ultimitely cost them the EPL title.

Its been the same with us. We have managed so far domestically against a lower quality oppostion, but when we have played the better teams, we have been exposed badly.

In addition BR still seems to be stubborn and naive when it comes to tactics, showing no indication to change from playing out from the back, deep in our own half away in europe.

I really dont think our problems lay in the quality of players we have. I firmly believe it is a coaching, tactical and organisational issue.

Neil Lennon showed that results can be achieved with the quality of players that we can obtain. So i dont accept the financial disparity argument as the reason why we should be so comprehensively beaten in away legs in europe.

 

Got the praise he deserved last week, now deserves to be questioned about the way we played tonight. Can't blame him for starting the same team, but I think 99% of us knew that sitting back and passing the ball back in forth in our backline was not going to work.

Being aggressive and putting pressure on their every touch that we seen in the first leg was missing big time. I'm not sure how many times he can make the same mistake by playing this 'defensive' minded way, we tried it against Astana we lost 4-3 and only started attacking when it was 4-1, Anderlecht at home was shambles as well. The only time it has come off was against Rosenborg, only due to that * Bendter missing sitters against us.

One positive though is that I haven't heard his excuse of their budget yet, strange considering Zenit probably spend 4X as much as Anderlecht do. Motivation seems to be something we lack at the minute, and can see either Rodgers leaving at the end of the season (don't want) or a big clear out of players.

 

BRENDAN Rodgers admitted his team didn’t show enough belief or courage in tonight’s UEFA Europa League defeat away to Zenit St Petersburg, which saw them exit the competition at the last-32 stage.

Celtic’s 1-0 lead from the first-leg was wiped out by the break as goals from Branislav Ivanovic and Daler Kuzyaev put the hosts in charge.

As the Scottish champions pushed forward in the second half in search of an away goal, which would have put them through, Aleksandr Kokorin bundled the ball home from Ivanovic’s low cross.

Speaking after the game, the manager said: “Defensively, we lacked aggression in particular in the first half. We didn’t close the space quickly enough. You talk about defending forward and we didn’t do that well enough, and we conceded poor goals from that.

“The corner is something that can happen. We got blocked off and they worked it well and found the space and Bratislav is outstanding and really powerful in the air. For the second goal, we didn’t engage quick enough from the throw-in. We got too deep and we have to press the guy who is shooting.

“At 2-0, we still have an opportunity in the game. We said at half-time everything was too sideways and backwards and that’s about bravery and courage to play.

“You saw the contrast from last week. In the second half we started off ok but then you concede possession too cheaply and they work ball round for a cross, and then they get the third goal. We shouldn’t be conceding that type of goal.

“Across the two games, we were much the better in the first game and in this game, if we played with a bit more courage and belief, we could have maybe got a result.”

Celtic had reached the knockout stages of the Europa League after finishing third in their UEFA Champions League group.

Qualifying for the Champions League and then securing European football beyond Christmas had been the Bhoys’ target when they started their continental adventure in the summer.

And while they had achieved that goal, the Hoops boss conceded improvement was required for further European progression.

“There’s still an awful lot of work for us to do,” he said. “If I take a step back, there has been a lot of positives for us in European football this year over both competitions.

“We have played very well in some games and showed some great qualities in some games. Of course, we are up against the best of the best, so there's a lot of learning taking place. It’s just consistency really.

“Last week was an outstanding performance and we came into this game with a great opportunity to come through, but if you don’t start with that aggressive mentality, then it’s really difficult for you.

“Over the course of both competitions, there have been aspects which have pleased me. We are taking steps forward with a lot of young players.

"We now have to go away and finish the domestic campaign as well as we possibly can and try to create another piece of history on that front. We then need to try and and be better in Europe like we were this year and take another step forward.”

 

Yep. And it wasn’t even defensively, that’s then worst part. Looked like Tierney had his number straight away, going forward.

 

Brendan is here for the 10.

 

That's why I said on Sunday were sleepwalking towards a disaster. We've rotated all season sacrificing domestic games for Europe resulting in very poor performances in both. Haven't won 4 league games in a row. We're slow and predictable now. My dad said last Sunday "I didn't pay 500 quid to watch a reserve team every week"
Sums it up. The good feeling is quickly evaporating.

 

So have most players in 4 and a half year?

 

Just please sing a dominating centre back a keeper and a right back and the improvement will be massive

 

Add a striker.

 

We have to face it we're setting our expectation levels too high for the boards ambition. BR wont get the kind of funds he really needs to buy real quality.......he simply buys what we can afford. He looks for someone who might have a bit about him to do a decent job and who quite possibly could be sold on to make a profit. We look like a development team with all those great prospects and none the finished article. The board have brought in a company man. A man who understands management and the basic economics of Scottish football. In reality we just bring in players like MD and loanees like PR and CM to put them in the shop window. There's no serious intent of getting a foothold in European competition and if we get something out of it all good and well. The League will always be our level unless something changes in world football to make things more equal. Managers will continually fall on their swords at Celtic when they're deemed to be not up to the European challenge.

Sorry to say but we have to will settle for 10 in a row which I don't believe will happen if we lose BR. That's the level of our achievement and whilst we all laugh at Sevco continually being hoodwinked by one charlatan after another take another look at ourselves. The biscuit tin mentality has been happening for decades. We live for every transfer window and European qualification and time after time it's the same story. It's like a cycle that keeps getting repeated as they play on the loyalty and passion of the fans. It's depressing. In all fairness I don't believe there's a manager out there better suited than BR is at this time. He's been a great servant to the club and fans. Yes he will talk up the dud that is Dembele (you all know my opinions on him) because he has to...........he's in the shop window. He can't come out and say maybe I was wrong about him, he's inconsistent, lacking in bravery or lazy. Dembele does have something about him though as last season proved it and he will be the next cash cow.

No Brendan Rodgers has to work with what he has and despite our lead it's been a poor season. A rare show of ambition seen us retain PR for the season only for him to spend most of it out injured. Other injuries have also hampered our progress. Defensively we're a nightmare, the midfield has been more or less holding it's own and our forwards and creative players haven't been doing enough...... whether that's down to lack of confidence or ability I don't know. It was always going to be hard to follow last seasons success but we can still exit this one on a high. Don't write of Brendan Rodgers yet. I have a feeling if the fans turn on he will walk and that would be like cutting our noses off to spite our faces.

 

This part for me is not true anymore, the board has had the fans brainwashed by saying for years about other sides budgets in Europe ect and we will end up like them.

We have 30 million plus this season champions league money, tickets ect to add to that yet we got out and sign a guy who is the wrong side of 30 and can't even play in Europe plus a 22 year old who is no better than what we already have, I would even say Ajer 2ho is 19 is miles a head of him. Then bringing in Scott Bain, we all know DDV is * but he thought he was good enough.

Yes we can bring in young players with potential and deal at the lower end of the market bar Ntcham our signings have been awful the last two windows and we have gone backwards yet again.

We have never strengthened from a position of strength. This summer will be massive for the club and if we don't get it right we could end up losing the 10 and be out of the champions league for years to come.

 

Sorry but it is true because we can evidence it by looking at the players BR signs. If he had serious money he wouldn't be rummaging around the fringes and bargain basement of world football. Serious money attracts better prospects and Celtic have always been self limiting. It could be argued that had they been any different we would have went down the road of Sevco.

We have never "strengthened from a position of strength"...why do you think Henrik left? I've been watching Celtic for decades and in my opinion the clubs ambition is limited. As for Ntcham I'm not convinced by him either yet.