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Mafia 15 - Bhoy School Reunion

Discussion in 'Competition Corner' started by M.E.T.H.O.D MAN, Sep 25, 2017.

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OK in that case this is where we are at

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Obaf
Odwc
Minty
Me

If that order is followed town wins...

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Soon to be 5 after losing 2 townies. May as well plan for it.

How many more mafia do we expect? Godfather alone or godfather and underling?

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ODWC and minty can be reversed bit I doubt we will need to

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borobob said: ↑

Obaf
Odwc
Minty
Me

If that order is followed town wins...
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Order for what?

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@Deebo67 I'm also willing to answer any questions you may have RE Minty's analysis

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I asked him to investigate me for the entirety of a day and the fucknut didn't for 2 days. That's not my fault.
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As I said, not up to you to tell someone how to play their role.

You trying to manipulate exactly how play went gave you away.

You said you could prove you were town and you were lying. You aren't proven town.

I see you trying to manipulate Deebo too.

obafgkmlt said: ↑

Order for what?
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Lynches.

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Minty said: ↑

As I said, not up to you to tell someone how to play their role.

You trying to manipulate exactly how play went gave you away.

You said you could prove you were town and you were lying. You aren't proven town.

I see you trying to manipulate Deebo too.

Lynches.
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We only get 2 more mate. There's 7 people.

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obafgkmlt said: ↑

We only get 2 more mate. There's 7 people.
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2 more if there's 2 mafia left, 3 more if 1
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obafgkmlt said: ↑

We only get 2 more mate. There's 7 people.
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Well that's what I assume Bob was referring to.

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In case you's missed it I am the Unseen * Hand (the cop)

Results were as follows

Night 1: Bob - Good
Night 2: Che - Good
Night 3: Summer - Good
Night 4: ODWC - Good

We know that Tim came back as Bad to Cena, so he's good to me. I am also good.

So thats Good - Me, Summer, ODWC, Bob, Tim.
No read on - Minty (claims to come back as Bad), Obaf.

I am presuming there are two mafia left (the numbers in the game would suggest there is). So one has to be Obaf and/or Minty.

Minty has claimed he will come back as Bad, whereas Obaf pushed for investigation on himself which surely would have proven he was good.

Basically Minty is the only person left in the game who would come back as Bad. So he has to go.

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In case you's missed it I am the Unseen * Hand (the cop)

Results were as follows

Night 1: Bob - Good
Night 2: Che - Good
Night 3: Summer - Good
Night 4: ODWC - Good

We know that Tim came back as Bad to Cena, so he's good to me. I am also good.

So thats Good - Me, Summer, ODWC, Bob, Tim.
No read on - Minty (claims to come back as Bad), Obaf.

I am presuming there are two mafia left (the numbers in the game would suggest there is). So one has to be Obaf and/or Minty.

Minty has claimed he will come back as Bad, whereas Obaf pushed for investigation on himself which surely would have proven he was good.

Basically Minty is the only person left in the game who would come back as Bad. So he has to go.
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Feel free. You're about to lynch a townie.

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I urge you to read my posts from early morning.

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Deebo67 said: ↑

In case you's missed it I am the Unseen * Hand (the cop)

Results were as follows

Night 1: Bob - Good
Night 2: Che - Good
Night 3: Summer - Good
Night 4: ODWC - Good

We know that Tim came back as Bad to Cena, so he's good to me. I am also good.

So thats Good - Me, Summer, ODWC, Bob, Tim.
No read on - Minty (claims to come back as Bad), Obaf.

I am presuming there are two mafia left (the numbers in the game would suggest there is). So one has to be Obaf and/or Minty.

Minty has claimed he will come back as Bad, whereas Obaf pushed for investigation on himself which surely would have proven he was good.

Basically Minty is the only person left in the game who would come back as Bad. So he has to go.
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You did say before though that you think there's almost certainly a godfather yes? That still on your mind?

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Deebo67 said: ↑

In case you's missed it I am the Unseen * Hand (the cop)

Results were as follows

Night 1: Bob - Good
Night 2: Che - Good
Night 3: Summer - Good
Night 4: ODWC - Good

We know that Tim came back as Bad to Cena, so he's good to me. I am also good.

So thats Good - Me, Summer, ODWC, Bob, Tim.
No read on - Minty (claims to come back as Bad), Obaf.

I am presuming there are two mafia left (the numbers in the game would suggest there is). So one has to be Obaf and/or Minty.

Minty has claimed he will come back as Bad, whereas Obaf pushed for investigation on himself which surely would have proven he was good.

Basically Minty is the only person left in the game who would come back as Bad. So he has to go.
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Could be a godfather, or he would kill Cena so the result wouldn't be seen.

Stated loads I was happy to be lynched.

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Deebo don't * this up ffs. There's no chance I'm mafia.

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I know it's difficult but I really urge you to look outside just me and Minty. It can't be me and him today and tomorrow in whatever order or I think town will lose.

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Minty said: ↑

Could be a godfather, or he would kill Cena so the result wouldn't be seen.

Stated loads I was happy to be lynched.
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So you think I'm both godfather and governor?

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Minty said: ↑

Was going to wait until the next day phase to post this but I'm fairly certain I'll be killed in the next night phase. Plus, I now can't sleep due to my neighbours having a party and waking me up.

Before I start, let me remind you all of the evidence that I believe proves me as town. The following is a list of indisputable facts (not my opinion):

I was first to claim a character, when the risk was highest of false claiming a character someone else had.

Other than VT claims which have become standard procedure in these games, I was first to claim a role (page 5) when risk was also highest of false claiming a role someone else had.

After I role claimed, Deebo said this:

When Mr.Slippyfist quizzed me about revealing my role, on page 7, I responded on page 8. I stated my feelings on why revealing my role as early as possible was necessary. On page 8, he then asked me to clarify my role.

Still on page 8, I responded to Slippy's request. My post included the following text: '
Title of my of my role is 'Unlucky Townie'.

The word townie was in a green font.'

After this, Slippyfist stated I was 100% town. I was the first person to mention anything about font colour and as Che has said, it's so specific.

In the opening part of the game, I stated on more than one occasion that I was happy to be lynched, to remove doubt from town about my role. I'm still happy to be lynched btw.

On page 6, Dazza posted the post that made me go for him, when he said even if I was town, he wanted to lynch me. He voted for me in the same post trying to get a lynch wagon started on me.

On page 18, Keano (town) said this: '

I continued my push for Dazza and the wagon slowly gathered votes. The only known mafia to vote for him was Scotia as Dazza appeared to be doomed. Dazza was revealed as mafia.

End of list of facts.

Next: I believe that was the first time on TC, that town have successfully lynched mafia on Day 1. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

Losing mafia so early on is a big blow to their team, as they're so outnumbered that they need as many players alive as possible to win the game without going down to the final couple of players, where the difficulty in winning increases almost exponentially.

I regularly get targeted at the beginning of these games, especially recently. In the previous game, 4 different people targeted me on Night 1, 2 of them killing me. Due to my role reveal, I believe mafia saw me as being an easy lynch at some point, so didn't target me. Plus, I stated that them Night Killing me would actually help town. So they had more valuable players to find.

Losing a mafia member on the very first night would have undoubtedly forced mafia to consider their tactics for how to win the game. The first evidence of this came from Dazza when he was inevitably being lynched and named both Bob and JC as mafia. JC confirmed as town now. He was looking for town to try and push for a quick lynch on one of those two, to quickly even up the score a bit. He almost got his wish as both Bob and Anton came close to being lynched (helped along by me, admittedly).

This was an early indication of mafia opting for a very high risk strategy.

Tim Time mentioned that the tactic Dazza tried, was something he had also considered.

Goes without saying that the ambiguity in this game always causes a bit of confusion, and the general rule is that inactivity only benefits mafia. Due to this, I made it my aim to make day 2 as active as possible, so we had a lot to go on for the rest of the game.

I freely admit that I called it wrong on JC Anton for parts of D2. I also acknowledge that I initially thought Scotia was town and claimed the wagon on him was retarded.

However, Scotia kept posting more and more out of character, so I opened my eyes up and thought there was a chance he was mafia. Even when the majority was reached I was thinking we had lynched a townie, so Scotia flipping as mafia was brilliant. Two in a row, what a brilliant start for town.

But this brings me back to when I mentioned mafia playing a high risk strategy.

Running low on phone battery now so going to post this so it isn't lost. To be continued.
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@Deebo67 If you read this post and still think I'm mafia, you've let your logic elude you.
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obafgkmlt said: ↑

So you think I'm both godfather and governor?
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I don't know. All I know is you're mafia.

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