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The Transfers/Transfer Rumours Thread

Discussion in 'World Football' started by holy pope, Dec 19, 2011.

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  1. The Thumb

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    Talk that it will be paid in installments to Barca..
     
  2. honda Gold Member Gold Member

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    im sure i read the release clause has to be paid in full. Mental :56:

    Otherwise sevco could trigger messi and offer £1 A week for ever.
     
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  3. Mr. Fawlty

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    They do, PSG could only do it in instalments if Barca agreed.
     
  4. honda Gold Member Gold Member

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    Why would they agree. They've said he's not for sale. Obviously if the release clause is met that's not there fault but they can ask for it all up front or no sale.
     
  5. Mr. Fawlty

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    That's what I mean, the only circumstance in which the transfer is out of Barca's hands is if PSG give Neymar the money up front so he can buy himself out of his contract. If PSG can't muster up the entire amount up front Barca hold all the cards.
     
  6. McChiellini..

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    It really is. I listened to Alan Smith call Leicester signing Harry Maguire for 17 million "shrewd business" :56:

    I actually think he's half decent but 17 million for a relegated centre back who has been up and down a couple of time's now, is not really too shrewd. It's just scatter cash because he's English. When you consider his teammate is joining a far bigger club and was arguably a bigger asset, for half the price. I think I know who was the shrewd signing of the two..

    As for Neymar going to Psg for what, 200 odd million. I can't help but be scunnered by where this is all gonna end. Barcelona definitely have the better deal in my opinion. Neymar is a brilliant footballer but for too long has been living off previous season's and not putting in the same kinda effort as his early Barca year's..

    If they go out and get Dembélé from Dortmund for 50/60 and have 150 odd to spare, they could sign Verratti and someone else for that wedge. Barca laughing..
     
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    Could probably get Van Dijk, Alexis Sanchez, Verratti and Dembele for about £250million and get a good 3 year out of Sanchez and 7+ out of Van Dijk, Verratti and Dembele and who knows, Dembele himself may be worth £150million in 5 years.
     
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  8. AJ Styles Moussa Dembele's eyes Gold Member

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    It's crazy money for Neymar, Barca should defo cash in imo and go and get Coutinho
     
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    Exactly my point, which makes it excellent business for Barca if they spend it wisely..

    They need pace, steel and a freshness about them and that kinda quartet would provide it massively..

    Dembele is a future Balon D'or winner. The way he moves on the ball and goes either side on either foot, is class. Think he'd be an excellent replacement for Neymar. You could argue positionally it's not a direct swap but for me Dembele will go on to he one that can play either side of a front 3 or a 10..
     
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    Ter-Stegen
    Semedo Pique Van Dijk Alba
    Busquets
    Verratti Coutinho
    Messi
    Suarez Sanchez

    Cillessen, Umtiti, Mascherano, Vidal, Digne, Sergi Roberto, Rafinha, Rakitic, Iniesta, Gomes, Turan, Denis Suarez, Deulofeu, Munir, Alcacer.
    Could put together a team like that with the Neymar money this summer and he will have paid for Semedo, Van Dijk, Coutinho and Sanchez. Could even sell a few players like Rafinha, Turan and Munir.

    Then next summer they could add Dembele as Dortmund won't sell him now anyway, Dembele coming into challenge Sanchez. Then the following year a new striker
     
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  12. Mr. Fawlty

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    Being a bit optimistic there, need to take into account all of the agent fees and signing-on bonuses involved that aren't reflected in the transfer fees, and that's before you even discuss salaries. Verratti and Sanchez alone would probably take the better part of £200m to get over the line, all told (unless you wait a year and get Sanchez without paying Arsenal a fee).

    Look at Pogba for example. Mino Raiola took home around £41.39m from the deal, £18.59m of which was bonus money from United and the player. Now, Pogba is often reported as a '£89m' player (which ignores the €5m Juve will probably get in add-ons) but in reality with United paying him a basic salary of £8.61m, plus an annual £3.4m loyalty bonus for the next five years, plus the bonus they paid to Raiola, plus the £7.5m signing-on bonus for the player, in reality United's investment works out to something like £177.4m (which is still a bit of an underestimate because we're ignoring things like image rights and performance bonuses).

    Barca would save around €25m a year from Neymar's salary + image rights but that amount would be swallowed up and then some by the demands of the various players you list. Sanchez alone would demand a ton of money, Uli Hoeness was recently quoted saying that a €20m salary for him was 'probably not feasible' from Bayern's perspective, so that's the type of ballpark Sanchez and his agents are going for. Verratti recently rejected a PSG contract offer of around €12m.

    You've also got to remember that La Liga spending limits prevent Barca from exceeding 70% of their revenue going on player salaries, they don't have the capacity to absorb several big earners without getting rid of players. They had trouble getting Messi's recent contract extension over the line due to the limits, as stated publicly by their chief exec. Oscar Grau.
     
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    Sanchez demanding 500k a week from PSG..
     
  14. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    2 million a month :56:
     
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    Source close to player says @ManUtd have bid £40million for @SpursOfficial's Eric Dier.
     
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    How are Liverpool letting Leibzig hold them ransom over Naby Keita. No way should he be worth £75 million.
     
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    A man gotta pay dem bilz..
     
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    Thats exactly what people will be saying when we're demanding 30/40m for Moussa in a year or so.

    If Liepzig say 75m then that's what Pool will need to pay.
     
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    The same way Liverpool are holding Barca 'ransom' over Coutinho: they don't want to sell him.
     
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    Neymar just scored a decent goal against Juve. Just scored a ridiculous 2nd goal aswell
     
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