London Tower Block Fire

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Labour tried to pass a law last year to make homes safer.It was rejected.

The amendment was rejected by 312 votes to 219. 72 of those MPs who rejected were unsurprisingly landlords.

Why do we put up with this *?

 

Makes for grim reading/listening. Poor people.

 

Not clicking that link but if true then that is outrageous.

 

Here's the article

Jeremy Corbyn tried to pass through a law that would required private landlords to make their homes safe and “fit for human habitation” last year – but it was rejected by the Conservatives.

Labour proposed an amendment to the Government’s new Housing and Planning Bill – a raft of new laws aimed at reforming housing law – in January last year, but it was rejected by 312 votes to 219.

According to Parliament’s register of interests, 72 of the MPs who voted against the amendment were themselves landlords who derive an income from a property.


The amendment will surely now be scrutinised after a London fire in the 27-storey residential Grenfell Tower in North Kensington claimed a number of lives and resulted in multiple casualties.

Residents had previously complained that only a catastrophic event would expose the ineptitude and incompetence of the landlord and “bring an end to the dangerous living conditions and neglect of health and safety legislation that they inflict upon their tenants and leaseholders”.

Teresa Pearce, the shadow housing minister who proposed the amendment in January 2016, said at the time that renters lacked “basic consumer protection” when things went wrong.

“The majority of landlords let property which is and remains in a decent standard. Many landlords go out of their way to ensure that even the slightest safety hazard is sorted quickly and efficiently,” she said.
“So it is even more distressing when we see reports of homes which are frankly unfit for human habitation being let, often at obscene prices.

“Where else in modern day life could someone get away with this? It’s a consumer issue. If I purchased a mobile phone or a computer that didn’t work, didn’t do what it said it would or was unsafe I would take it back and get a refund.”

The Government claimed the new law would result in “unnecessary regulation”.

 

Because as long as people can watch * TV on a Saturday night, they don't care about these things.

 

Just heard a story about a woman on the 10th floor throwing her baby to someone and they caught the kid.

Uplifting and tragic in equal measure.

RIP to all the victims.

 

Thanks.

Disgusting.

Self preservation society.

 

The Wicked Witches Right to Buy scheme in all it's glory.

 

Drowing would only be ahead of that for me. Both would result in the same death though, asphyxiation.

 

Any building over 18m and cladded needs fire rated cladding. My professional understanding is that this building did not. Also, there should had been firestops at each floor level. There's something disturbingly off at the rate the fire climbed the building.

 

Yeah my hubby said something like this. He originally thought it might be terror related until we listened to what folk seen.

Also though you could imagine if at an original point the window blew out it would start it and subsequently windows in the fires path would likely blow in with the fire catching on to internal furnishings. I know what you mean though as it seems freaky to have such a wall of flame so fast but then oxygen would feed it.

 

Those 72 MPs should not have been allowed to vote due to conflict of interest.
Disgraceful.
Hope those * are named and shamed.

 

Fs.. Manslaughter, simple as that.

 

Yeah mate, the thing is the contractor will get away with it (I know who won the job). The legislation is so vague any decent lawyer will pick holes all over

 

It's frightening, definitely but there's supposed to be factors of safety to prevent the spread. Which I don't think have been implemented. It's worrying without doubt

 

We done a big housing executive contract a few years back. All flats of which the highest was only three floors.
Every door except communal halls was a self closing fire door, and every door was routed and had fire/smoke seal inserted. All had two smoke and one carbon monoxide alarms. Kitchen had a fire blanket pouch installed. All external windows fitted were the escape ones. Water and foam extinguishers in all communal areas.
As for this fire, even the experts look as if they just want to say 'someone's * up'.
Here's the deal. There will be an inquiry, a few junior managers/supervisors will be hung out to dry.
A few managing/chief executives will resign from their very very high paid jobs, go on holiday on their yachts and villas, come back after a few months and walk into another very very high paid job.

 

I bet the contractor who puts in the lowest bid gets the job and goes on to cut corners to make it cost effective for them. There should be some kind of vicarious liability as these companies rise and fall all over the place. You can bet at the end of the enquiry some new legislation will be put in place. I feel for the survivors and the survivors of the people who perished. They will have lost everything so who will compensate them? Money doesn't buy a life but it might help the surviving family such as that wee baby that was thrown down to that man who caught it.