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Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Officer Doofy, May 28, 2017.

Discuss Jonny Hayes in the Transfer Rumours area at TalkCeltic.net.

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  1. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    DDV was signed to replace Gordon, without question. What's transpired has been down to DDV not getting going and Gordon knuckling down with the footballing aspect.

    Gamboa was signed in a different window with different priorities I.e. full back, back up. Rodgers has said he wants a couple of quality additions, if that is the case, that isn't Hayes.

    I don't think anyone would argue with that TBH.
     
  2. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    See where you are coming from here, kind of how I am feeling.

    Bit torn on this as I think he'd be effective but at this stage we should really be pushing for more, even for rotational players?

    Gonna be one of those that I keep changing my mind about.

    IN Hayes' defence though, I don't think he can be compared with yer Ciftci's, GMS and Allan. He has been an effective and dangerous SPL player for years now, going on a decade and was a thorn in our side even at ICT. He is a much better player than all 3 of the above.
     
  3. The Thumb

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    Worries me though, as Rodgers has said he is only aiming to bring in 2 players this summer....
     
  4. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Perhaps. Part of me thinks Rodgers wanted to give Gordon a kick up the * because he had no challengers here - Bailly was never in the picture really. Think Rodgers knew Gordon had the talent to kick on a gear.

    He will want a couple of quality, first team ready additions but, all going well, we're going to get rid of about 7/8 players as well. So he might still be after one or two players for depth.

    I completely agree that Hayes is no more than a back up, though.
     
  5. Bonobhoy

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    JUST.......NAW
     
  6. HoopswithPride

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    Has his qualities, as already highlighted. Just think if it's the standard we plan to add in place of Roberts, I find it underwhelming.

    We have the standard for the domestic scene, we need to add that bit extra required to make a dunt on European nights. I don't think Hayes,despite his qualities, has that next level. Why not just utilise Chrisite or promote from within. If we don't/can't add someone who can rival the abilities of Roberts

    Brendan has always identified and spoken highly of Hayes prior to any of our games. So the press have plenty of material to pad out a story. I remain unconvinced that Hayes would be a serious target.
     
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  7. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    Well why sign him to sit on the bench if we do keep Roberts, we can do much better than him surely.
     
  8. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    I'd love to see us get another CL level winger in as well as Roberts and Sinclair but I think that's unrealistic.
     
  9. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    If we sign Roberts then we already have Sinclair and Forrest, that being my point as why even go after Hayes, if we don't get Roberts then Hayes comes in I will be * raging as will others.
     
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    No brainer for me. Move GMS on and bring him in as cover for both wings (Sinclair and Roberts or Wilson starting ). I rate him higher than James Forrest.
     
  11. Hammy89 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Yeah, he's a better player than those three but as you said, we should be aiming for better.

    He's 30 now. He's not going to get any better. I would rather of us kept Commons than sign Hayes.
     
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    Not the standard of player we should be signing if we want to move up a level,good in the SPL but we want players of Champions league standard.
     
  13. ourdaywillcome! Gold Member Gold Member

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    Hayes would not be coming in to replace Roberts, as for 'Not good enough for Europe' - He would be better than GMS, and that's the point.

    We can't afford to have players of Sinclair/Roberts ilk as back up, I would much rather have Hayes come in if Sinclair got injured than GMS coming in.

    A potential deal for Hayes shouldn't be looked at as anything other than a back up signing. GMS is a bit younger and he will probably move on, we have to sign a back up.

    We have a few players Aberdeen might be interested in, the likes of Ciftci, GMS, Christie on loan, Henderson. It's probably a deal that could be done with little to no investment.

    Commons is absolutely done here mate. Out of shape, picking up injuries and sounds like he's winding his career up himself.

    Hayes may be 30, but he's been a late bloomer and has the pace and work rate of a much younger man.

    I rate him highly as an SPL player - Pacey, good from range, good delivery. He obviously has faults, that's why he still plays at this level, but he would be sound back up at a low price.
     
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    Was totally against this at first but the more I think about it the more it makes sense.
    But the only way I'd think it would be good business is if we are holding on to Paddy, or getting a quality replacement, and Hayes is being signed as a 3rd/4th choice winger.
    As has been said, we can't afford to have a backup player of Sinclair/Roberts quality sitting on the bench. We already have Forrest, who, on form, can be a game changer even at CL level.
     
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    Decent player but not the sort we need to be moving forward in Europe with.

    If we get him it better be over and above our main targets
     
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    I dont believe the only 2 players in for a minute, maybe 3 or 4 depending on departutres
     
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    I rate him very highly to be honest. I thought he had an excellent game on Saturday, and was a constant threat. He's probably the only player in the league who always seems to play well against us, and by all accounts he's had another great season there. Despite being 30, he is still lightning quick, and super fit so there would be no concerns in that respect.

    All that being said, if he was coming in to replace paddy then it would be a huge kick in the teeth, he wouldn't be however, he'd be coming in as a squad player (a very good one at that).

    If the money was right, then I'd be all for this one.
     
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    I was just looking at his stats for the last 5 seasons and comparing them to Forrest, he has a better goals and assists rate, per minutes played, than Forrest in 4 of the last 5 seasons in the spfl, if the site I was looking at was accurate. I still think we can do better, but he would be ok cover for our main wingers. My main issue is I can't see him improving now, at his age, so this is as good as he will ever be. I'd prefer someone younger with more potential.
     
  19. MJ9 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Decent player domestically. Would say he would be good to add if it is as cover but I would be expecting us to sign another winger (if we don't get Roberts) at a higher level for Europe. Hayes would plug a gap when injuries creep in but he's certainly not going to take us to the next level.
     
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    If we go with that logic we wouldn't sign Armstrong or Griffiths .i think Hayes has been a pain and always seem to score against Celtic and would be a better replacement than GMS . Just because he comes from a another Scottish side he's pish .
     
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