Kolo Toure

Yeah. You're right. I haven't a clue what I'm on about, so I'll just leave it for Brendan to educate you.



Brendan Rodgers sets the standards at Celtic. Kolo Toure makes sure they are reached.

It could be crucial advice to take some of the weight off captain Scott Brown.


It may be using his nous to help potential superstar Moussa Dembele.

It’s the Under-20 squad going into the gym to see him working alone when he could have left Lennoxtown hours earlier.

Rodgers likes good players but also places a huge emphasis on character.

Having described Toure as a “warrior” on the pitch the Celtic boss now sees the Ivory Coast defender delivering performances just as important off it.

And Rodgers believes there is a job for the 35-year-old to be doing at Parkhead even if it’s not starting in the centre of defence on matchday.

The Northern Irishman, who is ready to hand Toure an extended contract and bring him on to the coaching side, said: “When I took Kolo to Liverpool he helped with that seniority over the players.

“It was the same idea coming here. He knew he was probably getting towards the end of his career as a player.

“He can still play of course but it’s more difficult for him if he’s out the team for a while. When he was at Liverpool I put him on his journey of coaching. We started him on his badges and he has just completed his B licence. He sees himself going down that route.

“He has been invaluable. Browny will probably tell you the help he has been.

“When he came in Browny was the leader and maybe not so many others around him.

“But Kolo came in and straight away he’s a man with big experiences who is a good communicator.

“He’s good with the young players, he has empathy for them and wants to help them. He always helps the manager.

“Even though he hasn’t played so much his influence in the changing room is huge because of what he passes on to Dembele and these guys just starting out in their careers, especially the foreign boys.

“The Dembeles of this world now look at a guy at 35 who has been a big player and won big titles, played at World Cups – he’s a real major influence for them.

“His role hasn’t diminished even if he’s not playing as much. He’s still very important to us. Of course he’ll enjoy like the rest of us the pressure and expectancy around Celtic to win. When you’ve worked at a big level that’s what you want and he has that at Celtic.”

While Rodgers has no doubts Toure will make it to the dugout there are a few hidden areas of management that can catch out even the greatest of players.

In Glasgow Toure will have the ideal opportunity to see first hand what goes on – and Rodgers wants to ensure he provides an education before the veteran eventually flies the nest into a post.

He said: “I definitely think Kolo just needs time. We’ve seen it over the years that there have been many fantastic players who just don’t go on to make that next step for whatever reason.

“They maybe don’t feel comfortable in it. But if you are talking leadership then of course if you can transport that on to a coaching field and then managing other people, learn about it and take your time, then yeah it’s something
that could be there for him.

“He has certainly got great experiences at big clubs – he’s respected. Football is a difficult one nowadays as what happens when you are a big player, having spoken to other big players who have moved into management, you get the respect because of
what you are as a player.

“But very quickly players nowadays want to know, ‘What can you do for me?’ and very quickly that can disappear. That’s where you have to be armed with everything in order to become a coach and manager. It’s just time.

“You should never be expected to play and then go straight into management. You have to learn your trade.”

 

Which is sidestepping the argument entirely, you tried to infer stupidity on me, got found out and are now ignoring that,. You can debate the matter at hand, the pros and cons of Kolo Toure's time at Celtic, without implying, wrongfully, stupidity on those that disagree with you.
To put it in layman's terms; don't try to out * a *.

 

Take away his mistakes against BMG and I thought he had a good game. For anyone tae say he's had as much bad games as good is just daft.

He was strolling games when he first came in, having not had a pre-season, playing with an entirely new team around him in a new League (OK, not exactly the EPL, but we all know how players who've come from there have struggled at times)

I think BMG was the first game were he made any high profile, costly errors. Apart from that and Motherwell he's done more than a good job.


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I can't argue with that last part..

 

You really should heed your own advice

Your crass little comment was an abysmal attempt to offer a negative slant on Rodgers. Everything the man has said since bringing Toure into the club was more than just about what he could offer than just on the pitch.

But hey ho, he's just the manager who has come in an reinvigorated the team, and you are.....as you say.....a *.

I think you've done more than enough to show your credentials as a cretin.

 

One of the great things about self-loathing is that it renders other people's attempts to belittle you completely futile, although I would argue I am many things but not a cretin.
It seems that you cannot take any criticism of Rodgers at all, I would find that bizarre. Nobody is perfect, although I am sure we are all in agreement that he has been excellent for Celtic. I don't think the signing of one player has been excellent, I have given valid reasons and wasn't doing it in "an abysmal attempt to offer a negative slant", I was doing to provoke debate as I fail to understand the love in for a guy with little more than a couple of decent performances. You are constantly creating straw men by trying to compare my knowledge with that of Brendan Rodgers, doing so isn't just silly, it removes the purpose behind boards such as this one, as I assume nobody on here is actually a very successful professional football manager?

 

Any chance of replying with proper sentence structure and paragraphs next time?

It's difficult enough to be motivated enough to read the turgid * you are posting...

 

An excellent response, your failures with reading and comprehension are not my concern.

 

You may throw around as many ad hominem responses as you wish, but unfortunately for you, they are without success.

 

I will say this for you, you have great ironic timing.

 

Thanks hunni xx

 

THE words of Kolo Toure were still ringing in the ears of new Celtic signing Eboue Kouassi when he was unveiled to the media at Paradise today (Thursday) after he asked the veteran defender about coming to the Hoops – 'Don’t hesitate!'

The message was loud and clear from the Ivory Coast legend, who only joined the Celts in the summer but has already fallen in love with the Scottish champions.

“Kolo Toure gave me some advice and the main thing was don’t hesitate, just come to Celtic,” the new Celt said in his first media conference since signing for the Scottish champions at the start of the January transfer window. “It’s a great club.

“He basically told me to come to Celtic - they’ll look after you and then make you progress and an even better player than you are at the moment.

 

@cambridgebhoy

Toure's experience and leadership got us through than nightmare game in Israel, make no mistake.

He seems a geuninely nice guy, a great character and has a wealth of experience to pass on to our young players, hope he's here for years to come.

 

I normally wouldn't rise to this kind of comment, but thought I would post the matches he's played in, and results, for the benefit if yourself, and the forum.

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Manipulating stats to paint a player in bad light is quite petty. Nine out of the thirteen were wins, one draw, and three defeats (which can arguably be justified). Also, it's 25 goals (unless I have counted wrong), in which thirteen came from top European competition, so disregarding that, twelve goals in ten games is pretty incredible, considering the mess that BR had to take over.

If you feel he shouldn't be at Celtic, then that's your opinion, and that's fine, but don't twist statistics to try back up your argument, which everyone disagrees with anyway.
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You are right, it is 25 and not 29, that is the only 'manipulation' and I apologise for that as I took the stat from elsewhere without due diligence. If you want to argue the case for him go ahead, but you didn't. In fact, all you did was 'manipulate' stats in favour of your argument. I think statistics can be used to make an argument, it doesn't mean they tell the whole story, as you correctly point out but here is one; In six league games he played we have conceded 8 goals. In 15 league games he hasn't played we have conceded 6. I guess I manipulated those too.
As for who agrees or disagrees, I really couldn't give a *. I give an opinion I think is correct and until somebody can convince me otherwise I stick to it.
The main argument in favour of him seems to be his performance in Israel, one I would have down as a 7/10, otherwise I think he has been a poor signing, especially when you take into account his wages.

 

And the changing of a goalkeeper who flapped like tripped out seagull in some games
Not just centre back problems there

 

The team was all over the shop in the opening months of the season, hardly Kolo's fault.

BMG and Motherwell are the only lapses I can think of, other than that he was playing well and bailed us out a few times with his pace and experience.

Would like to see him get some more games.

 

Yeah its all feeling a bit Carlton Cole this one at the moment.

 

How is this like Carlton Cole? Carlton Cole was * for us start to finish and was a completely pointless signing. Kolo helped us reach the CL groupstages for the first time in threee years, added stability to our defense and is probably influensing the younger players in a positive manner behind the scenes

 

I mean the way he just disappeared