What we learn from tonight

1. He tried to mix it up a bit and surprise barca - didnt work.

2. De Vries looked way out of his depth, seems his positioning, shot stopping and anticipation are hugely suspect, unless he improves drastically we will need to replace him in January.

3. Bitton is awful get him out.

4. KT grew into the game was being asked to stay narrow but had to go out and protect the LB and covered Bitton sorry * in CDM

5. Gamboa had a rough night although i thought Lustig was awful last night too and dont think he would have been any better than gamboa

 

We will be destroyed home and away v City.

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Agree with every point you have made, I just hope that kt s confidence is not effected by being thrown under the bus, we were far too open, and if we line out like that against city we will be stuffed also.

 

The problem was our midfielders, didnt give enough cover, and we were wide open.

 

Good post and agree with every point.
The 4-5-1 wasn't the problem.
The players in the system were the real problem. At least four of them were not up to scratch. Namely De Vries, Bitton, Lustig and Gamboa.
There has to be a full inquest into this and nobody is above criticism.

 

I would have gone 4-5-1. Why do we always play 2 v 3 in midfield it's asking for trouble especially against the worlds best.

Midfielders can engage the opposition higher up the pitch than centre backs. When they are in on the centre backs it doesn't how many we have we won't tackle them in the box.

Very poor tactically, outnumbered in the middle and the extra man in defence counted for nothing.

 

What we learnt last night is that Scottish football is very poor at present. Also Brendan needs to learn how to mitigate damage limitations when playing these top class teams. Getting beat 7 - 0 at any level is disgraceful. If the board and fans find it acceptable just getting through is good enough then we have dropped our expectations as a BIG club. We cannot keep turning up at the BIG table and getting hammered.

 

That Bitton isn't good enough at this level.

 

His attitude is honking, I don't think it's anything to do with his ability. He has shown in the past he is a very good footballer, and can comfortably play in Europe for us, when he can arsed it seems.

 

Don't even think it's his attitude now mate, think he just Efe Ambrose-esque concentration.

 

In the end that was mostly down to tiredness, we looked * mentally and physically after they scored the 2nd since we missed the penalty, got no 2nd wind and everyone were chasing shadows.

 

It has a whole lot to do with it. The level of the opposition being regularly faced plays a massive part. Somebody might not like that coming from an Australian, and I won't bother with direct comparisons, however the one that matters is the direction - Scottish football is getting worse, whereas tonnes of other leagues around the world are improving.

Nobody (ok, not many) expect a win against Barca, but there's nothing wrong with expecting the team to do their best.

 

How do you explain them skelping Valencia, Bayern and Roma though? Or Real Madrid?

 

People beed to realise just how good Barca are.

 

When they do man city by 5 they'll realise

 

Aye, it's Dundee's fault Messi can score a hat trick.