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Tell The Truth About WGS

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by kennydal, Feb 12, 2008.

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  1. Chappie

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    What are you harping on about? What was sneaky about him joining Celtic? You're making out like he wore a balaclava and got huckled in the back door. It was done on the hush hush because of the sensitivity involving Martin O'Neill's departure. It would have been at Celtic's discretion to keep Strachan's appointment low key. They had to prepare for the future.

    Honestly I've read some mince on this forum, but that assertion takes the proverbial biscuit. Absolute havers.
     
  2. Martin

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    Why ?
     
  3. jophismack

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    You seem very proud of having raised so many "valid" points for hating WGS. I won't pick all the points i disagree with apart individually as there are a lot and I've got better things to with my time so I'll summarise.

    You seem to be nit-picking at every possible thing you can in order to validate your emphatically verbalised feelings toward the man.

    Saying his appointment was done sneakily is utter tosh.

    Every manager makes some bad signings or even good signings that they don't get the best from.

    Sneaked into the last 16 of the Champions League? I'll take "sneaking" through every time thank you! Something St Martin never managed.

    Who then, would you appoint as the next Celtic manager if WGS were to grant you your wish and go say, tomorrow morning? I ask this as from the moment MON was undoubtedly leaving us right up until this very moment in time I have believed him to be the only man for the job.
     
  4. Nimrod.

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    sneaking into the last 16 what a load of baws
     
  5. Vic the Brick

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    I love him. He's mental though. I love his mad comments. Like the 'velocity' thing. He just hates the media to the core of his being and unfortunately that's the only place we hear from him. When you read comments on Celtic.fc.net, he's not so volatile.

    I love the players he buys and the way he tries to make us play like a top premiership side. MON made us battlers and strong. Unbeatable at points. WGS has made us silky again, a bit scary at times with the flooding forward, but great stuff. Apart from defence, he has brought in, or made regulars, some of our best players for a while. Naka, Boruc, McManus, McDonald, McGeady. He rarely lets too many players go as well. Some of his latest signings look great future prospects and some instant cover.

    His success has bettered MON in my humble opinion. Champions League is where it's at guys.

    Go Celtic.
    Go WGS.
     
  6. Jungle Bhoy

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    With you 110% :50::shamrock:
     
  7. kennydal

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    Absolutely a brilliant answer i started the thread asking why he is disliked within the ranks of the celtic supporters , i like how you wade up both ends [for&against] well done :50:
     
  8. kennydal

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    Well said that man, its called celtic talk so people talk of there opinions
     
  9. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I love how if we win 3 in a row there will be a sour taste left, that smacks of idiocy in my book.

    I know how much of a * he can come across as that's how i'd never berate someone for their opinion of him as a person but you can't be too proud to celebrate an absolutely amazing achievment should he manage it in securing 3 in a row. You may as well go and support someone else if you hate the manager that much you can't celebrate your teams success. What's the point in supporting Celtic then?
     
  10. ellboy

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    So what you are saying is. If someone with the beliefs of an Adolf Hitler was manager of celtic you would suport him just as long as we were winning.

    Just before you jump down my throat I am not comparing WGS to Adolf Hitler.
     
  11. tim park

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    i think she should be manager a,s,a,p
     
  12. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Your analogy suggests its Strachans beliefs you don't agree with, is this true? Therefore in answer to your question no not one thing i've said would suggest i'd be for an evil tyrant in charge of the club as long as we're winning trophies, unless Strachans an evil tyrant in your book? :97:
     
  13. gunt

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    Its a deliberately enigmatic statement. I just think the long list of specific anti-WGS arguements does not add up (dont have time to go over them all again: its been argued before) and are not the real reasons. I believe that (as some have admitted) he simply started off under unprecidented supicious negative scrutiny with every bad moment grotesquely magnified and every good thing explained away as luck or a weak Rangers team etc. One of the above posts (by a guy whose other posts I like) is an extreme example of this which all but says that its actually hard to take when he is succesful FFS. Thats crazy. Some of the individual criticisms sound plausible but the its clear that a lack of good will was firmly in place before a ball was kicked and the same people feel the same way today despite his high level of success. They will never change and the inside of their heads cant be pretty. I think the background level of default opinion has been very negative towards Strachan whereas most managers have a neutral clean slate that then goes up and down with fortunes. No so WGS. The real reasons IMO are


    1. He is a victim of following MON who some think was from the right 'culturally traditional' background. Its not that other managers didnt also lacked this background but WGS had the bad luck of immediately following someone successful who was and ticked all the right boxes in the eyes of the cultural traidtional people. Some tims attitudes to non-tim Scots is basically sectarian (everyone is a hun if they are not a tim etc). A crucial fact is thatother than Stein, Celtic have no have no non-'celtic minded' Scots in charge other than WGS. I am more than suspicious this is a factor in the freakish hostility that was clearly in place before his team kicked a ball. Few openly admit this and it may even be subconcious for some but I am sure its a factor. It may for some not even be the sectarian aspect but just the fact that uniquely. WGS is a Celtic manager who has done damage to us as a player. I think this is not true for any previous manager and puts WGS in a unique situation at Celtic. For them-grow up FFS and get over it. If you can remember WGS as a player you should be old and wise enough.

    2. His personality grates with fans who dont share his humour or eccentric approach. I have more respect for people like this who just think he doesnt conduct himself right or is an ego (Martin-you have made clear you fall into this latter category and not the previous).
     
  14. lubo#1

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    The sneaky way in which he became manager = If MON took his leave and we assesed all the available candidates, and choose the man with the best ability, WGS wouldn't be manager. He was a cheep appointment, who was struggling to find a job elsewhere.
     
  15. limerickcelt

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    i dont neccessarily have a like or dislike of wgs, all i care about is whats best for Celtic. i will reserve my judgement. one thing i will say is that he IS funny, and i like that. When did Celtic supporters lose their sense of humour. you can clearly see the guy has had to stop saying anything that is not totally serious. Why? We can sit in the stands and shout abuse or take the * out of players but suddenly the manager is a * just because he gives a stupid answer to a stupid question. I for one love to see him making an eejit out of stupid reporters and pundits.
     
  16. tim park

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    forget how he got there,the fact is hes there and will be for the forseeable future theres nout sneaky about his apointment,he has been a bit sneaky by sneaking in to the last 16 twice,and losing to rangers 3 times in a season and still winning the leauge "i dont think thats happend before"
    i dont mind the sneaking through tournaments or strachan being lucky,what the majority dont like is the style of celtics play ,he really does just enough to get through and dosent play "the celtic way"
    plus his arogant manner in interviews or its "my way or no way" attutide dosent endear him to anyone
    mabye thats just the way he is and there nothing we can do about it,i personally think the celts have been struggling since he took over ,its just that the other spl teams have been worse,
    and he has no track record in management to be looked at in a positive way,he has always been in charge of struggling teams ,now hes made us a struggling team ,i never thought id see the day when celtic struggle in the scottish leauge and those of u think we havent struggled since his appointment are watching a different team ,last year at this time in the leauge we were at least12 pts clear,now we find ourselves 4pts behind with slight improvement on the playing side ,but still to play rangers 3 times witch means we still have it in our own hands but if we lose the next old firm match then its out of our hands
    i still think hes ruining our team slowly but surely because the calibier of player has gone down way down in my opnion and his"i dont give a * attutide" is annoying

    tim park, news at ten, glasgow
     
  17. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    He was endorsed by the Major Shareholder, the Chief Executive and the outgoing Manager. Where's the sneakiness?
     
  18. geothefool

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  19. tim park

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    i thought id sneak a wee bit of humour in this repetitive thread
     
  20. Murdi

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    "Repetitive" doesn't begin to describe it. Talk about going round in circles.