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Shake up of the English Leagues: opportunity for us to move in?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by syntax, May 19, 2016.

Discuss Shake up of the English Leagues: opportunity for us to move in? in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Nasser

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    The SPL is not going to improve not so much that we can compete with transfers and have a chance of winning the Champions League. It will get worse as it is already, I love Celtic but the league is the most boring crap in the world at the moment I can't see that changing.
     
  2. Clint Eastwood The Good Bad and Ugly of TC

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    This. Can't believe so many people would be against this idea.
     
  3. celtic warrior

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    Sorry for the bump but came across this article today http://www.westerngazette.co.uk/Football-League-restructure-Yeovil-Town-playing/story-29348167-detail/story.html?

    As much attention and media hype it would receive, along with our top shareholders seeing this a long term ticket to the endless money bag tv deals and sponsorships of the EPL.

    How many of our fans could honestly sit through the dredge and trek to the likes of Plymouth and some right * locations the other side of England that barely hold 5k for 4-5 seasons before we got to the EPL providing we got consecutive promotions every year?

    For arguments sake there is a chance we'd probably lose our entire senior squad and have to do with youths/cheapies.
     
  4. Captain Brown Gold Member Gold Member

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    Wonder how much season tickets would be if we ever made it to the EPL.
     
  5. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    We should not be wanting to play in Engerland, it would be a mistake, and European football would be a thing of the past, how depressing would that be?... All for the sake of money.... No way!!!
     
  7. Captain Brown Gold Member Gold Member

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    36 games against utter * plus however many number of decent European games vs a good quality of opponent every week (if we made it to the EPL) would be seen as a better option to a lot of people.
     
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    I would think Celtic would have to be grandfathered into at least the Championship division, if not straight into the EPL. Wouldn't make business sense to put such a club into a fifth division. But I wonder what longtime Celtic fans think. Better to have a crack at Champion's League through the playoffs nearly every year or fight it out for those four guaranteed group slots in England? How often does the club find itself at least in the Champions League group or Europa League group phase? Sorry for being such a newbie.
     
  9. jpr21

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    Couldn't think of anything worse.
     
  10. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Probably the same as they are now.

    We wouldn't have to worry about season tickets as our income would go miles up from all other avenues that tickets would no longer matter.

    TV money for example would go from now about £2.5million to about £120million, Sponsorship and kit deal money would go from now about £9million a season to about £40million. Filling the stadium at current prices would add about £10million more a season.

    So we'd be about £160million a year richer than we are now. Increasing season tickets by £200 each would only add an extra £10million which would be peanuts when we would have a turnover of about £210million already.

    We could probably hold a new share issue if we got there too which could raise any amount as we would then be one of the best teams in the world and have the fanbase to fill an 80,000+ seater every week.

    Given we have no debt either we would be in a position to be able to go into £100million of debt to build a team too.
     
  11. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Welcome to the site :50:.

    We have made either the CL or EL group stages for each of the last five seasons and for 9 of the last 10.
     
  12. ILoveTheCeltic

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    It wouldnt be, Celtic are a far bigger and would be much richer than Everton, Spurs and Southampton - we'd proably also have the biggest stadium in the UK to attract the best players with the money to buy whoever we wanted also, it's more likely we'd be in Europe every season than never in Europe.

    Say we were being put into the EPL in 2018, work would be begging as we speak to replace the main stand up and add 20,000, so we had an 80,000 seater. Share issue would be getting done which could probably raise well over £100million.

    New sponsorship, kit deals etc would be getting made the now.

    As we arrived into the League we'd probably be looking at spending about £300million on players the summer we arrived and being able to add about £100million to our wagebill. Which would equate to about 10 £30million players on £200k a week, that would be within our price range. __________________
     
  13. ticketyboo0 Gold Member Gold Member

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    As much as i dont think it will happen i would be perfectly happy if we had to go in via the bottom tier. 5 years to work our way up is nothing in the long term.

    As i said however i cant see it happening, too much for English teams to lose and they will look at our fans and spout stuff about its Irish republican leanings etc. Thats not even starting with the newco and their shower of orcs causing mayhem wherever they go, cant see places like Yeovil and Plymouth, Carlisle etc looking forward to home games against the rotten mob and their mob invading their towns.
     
  14. Spring Time Gold Member Gold Member

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    Ffs £300,000,000 on players transfers 1st season, I'm for it.
    does he get to spend the money we make on players getting sold as well
    efe, stokes etc?

    10 players on £200,000 a week, brilliant.









    :rolleyes:
     
  15. ILoveTheCeltic

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    How would it not be?

    There'd be an increase in income of about £180million. Just from the bigger stadium, sell out crowds and bigger sponsorship, kit deal and TV money etc. Wea are basically debt free just now too, Celtic in the EPL could easily afford debts of £100million+ and as mentioned Celtic going into the EPL we could sell shares like hotcakes, we'd easily rake in £100million+ in investment because everyone will know that the club is automatically going to become one of the 10 richest in the world with one of the biggest stadiums and fanbases about it'd be buying money to investors.

    So most likely going into our first season we'd have hundreds of £millions to play with about £180million of free money just by being there which is guarenteed, £100million we could go into debt with a bank/banks and likely £100million+ from investment from shares, the £100million addition to the wagebill taking it to about £130million a year would be easily covered by the £220million+ a year turnover we'd have, we could probably extend that by several 10s of £millions more in the following seasons but at first would need to use the extra money on transfers.

    Thats only if we were transported straight into the EPL, going through the lower Leagues would take years and obviously not be as grand an entrance although the outcome would be similar in the end once we got to the EPL although we could probably sell shares for fun again to raise money on the way, again investors would know Celtic in the EPL would be worth 5x+ what we are now.
     
  16. ticketyboo0 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Which 2 teams in the Epl or top half of Championship are gonne vote to lose their place in the Epl to acommodate us and newco? Not gonne happen.

    IF we are to go into the English set up we will have to do it the long uninspiring way and work our way thru the leagues.
     
  17. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I wouldn't be keen on Celtic taking on that level of debt. The English money bubble will burst eventually.
     
  18. FrankMcCallum

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    * the English Premier League and everything it stands for. Their league is * dross. It's promoted like the wrestling. The amount of time they spend analysing 'incidents' rather than the actual tactics of the game shows how far behind Spain, Italy and Germany they really are despite dwarfing these nations in terms of finances.

    Their teams have no composure on the ball or any tactical nous off it, hence why they get absolutely hung out of every year in Europe. Leicester are a poor side and absolutely walked that league. Their league is full of soulless clubs and their supporters sing the exact same songs every week only with their teams name in it, whilst paying £70 for the privilege.

    It's full of corporations and big businesses rather than traditional football clubs. Shambles of a league. And as the league gets richer, the louder I laugh every year when each one of them get toppled in the Champions League, and their * national team gets humped in the Euros or World Cup.
     
  19. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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  20. Minimalist

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    I don't see it ending.

    Maybe if the Champions League started paying out higher participation fee's than the £PL then maybe it will… But for the next generation at least this Sky Sports marketing machine is here to stay and inflate the whole of Europe.