Neil Lennon

They're going on about him as if he's a saviour because he was a saviour. You don't think someone taking us over just now and leading us to the CL last 16 in 2 years time would be deemed a saviour? It would take a miracle to replicate that tbh.

What did he do? Well, he took over a terrible Celtic side and reclaimed the league title, provided us with our best ever CL campaign, the only celtic manager to have a winning head to head record against Walter Smith, bought and developed a ridiculous number of excellent players who we were able to sell on for a significant profit - in short he did basically everything we could realistically hope for other than some poor performance in the domestic cups and a low points tally in the league one year.

He was a huge success here, that isn't revising history.

 

I think Lennon would deliver all of that. This team isn't as bad as the Mowbray team he took over and he's also a far better manager now than he was then.

Moyes is my first choice but that's because I have a feeling he would be given more money to spend than Lennon, as none of the players at the club now are his players like Lennons so he'd want to rebuild on a larger scale. Would be delighted with Lennon though, I think our current squad isn't as bad as it has looked this season and if he adds a couple he'll do very well again with it.

 

Informed opinions on why Lennon wouldn't be the best option?

Okay. Read my other posts.

The ones where I state that under Lennon, we achieved 79 points in a season. Or what about his record at Hampden? The shift from Last 16 qualifiers to CL whipping boys within a season?

 

I just told you.

Thinking Lennon is comparable to Moyes. The difference with Le Guen is he tried to go down the Deila route - completely changing the style of football and culture at the club.

Moyes isn't like that.

 

Was just thinking about that video

 

So it just comes down to ambition and not suitability for the club for you?

 

It's down to who I think would be the best appointment for us right now.

And Lennon certainly isn't at the top of that list.

 

Moyes isn't like that!!!!!!! ffs the Man Utd players were in open revolt because he * changed everything, he sacked his assistants who fergie had pleaded with him to keep, he changed the players diets, he changed the training, bit like deila actually.

We need stability, someone who can get the players motivated, someone who knows the club inside out.

Lenny, come on home son!

 

Aye and it's why that's the case that I've been trying to ask :smiley-laughing002:

 

I'm actually feeling a wee bit queasy about Lennon coming back, and not in a "I'm about to lose my virginity" kind of queasy. It's more of a "why is that 300lb, 6ft 6" muscle bound black man smiling at me" kind of queasy.

Disclaimer : Both examples are entirely co-incidental. I did not lose my virginity to a 300lb, 6ft 6" muscle bound black man.

 

Well his time at Preston and Everton was successful. In terms of the money in the EPL, he never had lots of money to work with regarding signings. His Everton team were consistent with their EPL finishes, finishing in a European place regularly.

The fact he was hand picked by Fergie to be the United manager speaks for itself. Okay it never worked out at United, but no matter who came in they were always going to struggle after Fergie. They had an ageing squad with not a lot of talent still there. You only have to look at LVG who's spent christ knows how much more than Moyes spent on that squad and he's hardly done a better job.

Much like you're saying with Lennon and Deila. Look at how Everton have fallen since Moyes left them.

 

That I agree with, I'll be ecstatic if we get Moyes as well. So it's more just wanting Moyes and nobody else, rather than thinking I'm off my rocker that Lenny suits the Celtic job? :smiley-laughing002:

Biggest stumbling point with Moyes would be it would require a massive change of direction of the board, the like we haven't seen since O'Neill I think.

 

Lennon would be shocked at how far we have gone backwards since he left and i'm not sure he's the man to turn it round.He also had a good backroom staff which helped.I would go for Moyes does'nt seem the type you would mess with and would make us a team with a bit of heart.

 

You're off your * rocker mate, deal with it.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a case of Moyes or nobody. I'd be chuffed with Rodgers or Yakin, Laudrup etc.

Regarding the change of direction, you're right. But part of me thinks that that's what will happen. The board must know that the fans are almost at their breaking point. We're disillusioned with them and their penny pinching. Something's got to give.

 

The appointment of Moyes, along with the assurance that he would be backed properly, and that any transfer fee's freed up would be reinvested would be a huge statement.

 

Attack his character? * off with that nonsense. I said I didn't blame him for leaving. I've also said plenty times on here before that I thought Lennon done a good job here. Jock Stein was our greatest ever manager, Lennon is not. What part of that are you just not grasping. The two situations are not comparable. Do I think Lennon gave less to the cause? No. Is it relevant in this discussion? No. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

Im questioning why Lennon would want to return here, to work under the same board that forced him out to begin with?

 

Which is why I think it has next to no chance. The board might back a manager more than they have been in the transfer market but I think Moyes would want total control, which I don't think they'd be willing to give.