Neil Lennon

Does he want to be managing in the lower leagues? I wouldn't have thought so.

Who's to say we wouldn't be in freefall had he stayed and worked under the same restrictions? And with us being his only realistic option it would appear, I don't see why he would be working under anything different this time round.

Moyes and Rodgers are pie in the sky I feel as well. However, I would be looking elsewhere before I went down to route of Lennon.

 

What restrictions was Deila working under that Lennon wasn't? Deila actually spent more than Lennon did under the same time frame!

 

It was a series mate..

 

Still don't know if I want Lenny back. Sure he can be seen as the 'safe option' but he did choose to leave and said what his reasons were, so what has changed, other than he hasn't got a job. It would also be at the back of my mind 'will he want to head off again'.. Also if his results/performances are not good he will face the same levels of abuse Ronny has, wont he, and I don't know if I want to see/read/hear that type of * again. I'm also not so convinced the board really want him given Ronny will be here til the end of the season although, I suppose, they know they have a 'back up plan', lets just hope if that's the thinking Lenny doesn't scupper another plan the board has.

 

We were in decline in Lennon's last season in charge. In fact, after the Legia game, Lennon even come out and said it was a result he could see coming. Had Lennon stayed, there are no guarantees we would have qualified for the CL the following season, none whatsoever.

 

That's reassuring. He will get work in the lower leagues - so would Deila.

And I'm sorry but we don't 'need him more than he needs us'. * ridiculous thing to say.
If we showed a bit of ambition - which clearly you are not, we could get a better manager then Lennon.
Lenny is coming across as desperate here. And that is not a good thing.
He will have JC and Kennedy as his backroom staff, nothing to spend and nothing to spend it on and be everything we want changed from Deila.

We need to move forward. He's had his time. Let him be a pundit. Luis Enrique might be getting punted anyway soon so he can take over there

 

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to get at with your first two points. Jock Stein was our greatest ever manager, wining countless trophies and delivering us Europe's biggest prize on offer. Is that comparable to what Lennon achieved here? Larsson was arguably our greatest ever player, and left the club after giving us the best years of his career. Would I have taken him back? In a heartbeat. Still, it's not comparable to the Lennon situation now though.

The part in bold is utter pish also. They don't count for nothing, certainly not for me anyway. I will always be grateful for what Lennon done for us both as a player and also a manager. At the end of the day, he left the club because of the board, yet now he is saying he is interested to return to the club to work under the same board that forced him out. If he didn't think he could take the club further then, what has changed now?

 

There are no gaurantees of anything really. What we can say is that Lennon had a good track record of getting us there, and with recent signings like Griffiths, Johanse, and the emergence of VVD into the talent we see today, he would in all likelihood made a far better go of it than we ended up making.

 

Newsflash here, we don't come across as desperate we are desperate!

Lennon done a fantastic job here the last time and made us into a winning team. Although not my first choice I'd have him back in a heartbeat.

 

Lets go for Mourinho then mate...

It amazes me what type of character people think Lenny is. Press does a great smear job on him tbf.

 

So there is a level of player/manager you would take back. Neil has just not reached that level in your book. This makes it more about Lenny than the fact that he left.


What has changed now is that Ronnie Delia has come and taken his beloved club backward. When he left us we had 2 players on our team worth £10+. Do we have that now? We are not a Champions League team any more. Lenny has taken over a gutless team before and taken them to the last 16. Maybe he fancies doing it again.

 

See when people say we were on a downward spiral in Lennon's final season, they are remembering that at the peak of that spiral we were beating Barcelona and qualifying for the last 16 of the CL with a record points total, right?

So it may be fair to say that we had fallen off slightly from that artificially high, and unsustainable peak, but this talk of a complete downward spiral isn't actually based on anything other than the fact that we turned to absolute * after he left.

 

And nobody can say that Lenny's team by the January/Feb of that season was worse than the one that started it. So we were on our way back up.

 

Fair enough you love Lenny but you're overrating him to *. We're in free fall because the board are tight and they appointed a manager who wasn't good enough. Not because Lennon left.

He needs us more than we need him. There won't be one single team in England worth their salt that wants him. The best he could get after he left us was a Bolton in the *. He failed there so his stock is almost as low as it gets down there.

 

Anybody of those who are strongly against Lenny coming back admit to using his first 2 years as a novice having taken over the team in a shambles as a yardstick to justify why RD should be kept as manager?

 

Agree with that. People talk about the team he left behind as if it was threadbare, poorly planned and full of * footballers. The reality is it was about as good a team to handover as we could hope for. Not perfect by any means, but literally a couple of good signings away from being absolutely capable of going into the CL proper with good reason to be optimistic.

 

What kind of character do I think Lenny is?

Not the kind who was whoring it around England when he told us to * off? And is now doing the same again when he has a sniff of his old job back?

It's like in England when it's the same * manager like Allerdyce and Warnock swapping * clubs every 6 months coz they get sacked - they * themselves about looking for anything.
He'd be saying he wants the Villa job if He thought he was in with a chance of it.

Come on mate I know you love the guy but ffs... Just because we think we can do better doesn't mean we hate him.

 

Eh?

 

Lets be honest, does any of this 'who needs who more' stuff really matter? We're a football club aiming to be successful, and Lennon has already demonstrated the ability to take us over at our worst and bring us up to near our best. It may well be the case that we both need each other once a few bigger names are removed from the running.

imo, it isn't quite accurate to say we are in freefall because Lennon left - there were obviously a number of factors - but I could confidently say we wouldn't be in anywhere near the same situation if he was still here.

 

Possibly, but he didn't fancy giving it a go, and I don't blame him for that. So we will never know.