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Dermot Desmond

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by TheHappyLoss, Feb 27, 2016.

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  1. ILoveTheCeltic

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    I could answer them...

    Ask him does he have any plans to halt our slide that has seen us go from a lower level Champions League team to a lower level Europa league team
    By doing what? nothing can be done because it's due to money and he's not going to put in his own money as it's far too much for what would be little to no return


    Why does he think 15k season ticket holders aren't going to games and what are his ideas to tempt them back.
    It's because the team are * and the prices are too high. Nothing again can be done to tempt them back as to tempt them back the prices will have to almost half and if the prices half we'll lose out on about £10million a season and by doing that we'll have to trim the wagebill and if we trim the wagebill we'll have even worse players which in return means fans won't even bother paying the cheap prices because the team will be so *.

    Basically what are his views on the direction the club is going and does he actually give a *.
    The club are sinking like a stone and fuckall can be done because loads of teams are getting richer and Celtic stuck in Scotland will never get the TV money which means we'll never get the advertising and sponsorship so are falling further and futher behind, literally dying.
     
  2. ILoveTheCeltic

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    It is pish and geez peace unless im mistaken i've not heard of you outside the doors of Celtic Park demanding action is taken and that there is a crisis that must be dealt with now or we're *, you are moaning on the internet, the same as any other *.
     
  3. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    The attendances at domestic games have been poor since O'Neill left.

    Deila's target is to win the League and try to reach the Champions League. First part he's achieving, second part he's * thus far against Malmo when it was there for us to take.

    When he achieves the first part again, which he will, he'll have earned another shot at it.
     
  4. Creativecelt Gold Member Gold Member

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    2000-2005 we bought all those players on credit on a bank loan. That has been slowly paid back. Thats how we funded the Martin O'neill team and their wages.
     
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    Look at the financial statements, there hasn't been downsizing in financial terms. the main problem is the TV money in other leagues has increased and priced us out of competing for the top level players that we had bought in the MON days.

    the fact of the matter, is the club is a business that has to live within its means, the only way to generate more money, is change the tv deal to a single private deal like Real Madrid or Barcelona. Increase revenue paid by fans, increase season tickets, merchandise etc etc or regularly sell more of our best players for more money.
     
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    Back to a Dermot Desmond comment, I would like to think he would spend some of his time lobbying other club chairman to get them to invite Celtic into a newly formed BPL. This is what i want him to be doing.
     
  7. ILoveTheCeltic

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    True but not really as most of it was paid back off again. Celtic were in £14.5million when O'Neill took over and £19.5 when he left. We did go a fair bit into debt to get him all his signings at the start, we were £29.5million in debt after his first season but then it went down by £13.5million after his 2nd season so, it kinda went right up then back to normal within a year then it went up by like £1million per season until he left.
     
  8. ILoveTheCeltic

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    True, that in reality is the only thing he can do, use his money and power(if he has any) to wine and dine * over Europe to try and build up some kind of new League like one where Scotland, Netherlands, Belgium etc all join together or a totally new Governing body set up to oppose UEFA where we trying and get every country we can to join the new UEFA or whatever youd want to name it where TV money etc will be distributed equally among everyone and there'd be new European competitions set up, part of it too would be the countries would have to pull out of UEFA and FIFA so it would * up the EUROs and World Cups.
     
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    Stop it i'm not in the mood for bullshit today. I am very aware that we waste money on dross and end up spending more or the same. Look at the Gudetti situation because we downsized the wage bill we didn't get him. People will come out with propaganda saying he wouldn't have come and all the rest of it but let's not kid ourselves if we gave him a contract that he found acceptable he would still be here. Could we afford this contract? Yes 100%. Instead we chose to waste money including a transfer fee on three jokers no doubt spending more in the long run. All the result of downsizing. Lawwell would rather 4 duds on 5k a week on the bench than a 20k player. he can say ooohh we're still spending, EPL, sevco etc.
     
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    No we did not, we covered the bank debt with a share issue I am sick of hearing this.

    No doubt some will choose not to believe it when its a quick google search or look on the stock market announcements in 2001.

    How can nothing be done? We can raise another share issue, this has been exercised by funding our own Training Complex and Strengthening the Football Department in 2001. How the actual * can you say there is nothing can be done? Are you serious? You know whats alarming is your willingness to answer on act of behalf our major shareholder who couldn't give a * about the Club while still laying blame on everything except ourselves its * pathetic :97:

    Of course the team is *, thats because of the presence of the * on the park from the Boardroom and Scouting Department, failing year after year resulting us getting weaker - no one will put money into that. Its the reality we wont be flexible enough to bring in quality and entertainment to put bums on seats and if we aren't going to find an alternative and just keep blaming everyone else were heading into foregone conclusion. Don't insult me with the bullshit that we will get VVDs and Wanyamas, its completely delusional.


    See the first reply regarding shareissues etc.

    If you are content of taking the austerity due to our birthright playing in Scotland then we can no longer claim we are a big Club as we are willing to accept it and do * all about it.
     
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    As for the alternative to England, we are never getting in there want to know why? Because we would rocket so much it threatens Englands best. When there FA is coming out with it that we would put the chills into the top 4 of englands backs its no wonder they don't want us down there or you could be a * idiot like the rest of the £PL fans and be under the illusion that we aren't bigger than Swansea and Cardiff while we would get relegated with a package of £130m and raising each season.
     
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    How is share issues the answer :smiley-laughing002: are we going to have share issues every season? * have stopped buying season tickets never mind paying money for fuckall and no businessman would put a penny in us unless there was any chance of us getting out of Scottish football and if there was any chance of that then there would be no need for share issues, it would fall flat.

    The reason that the scouting etc department is failing and signing * is because thats where we are, we can only afford to gamble on cheap players. 1. Because of money and 2. Because good players wouldn't come here anyway.
     
  13. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I'd like to know his handicap.
     
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    We dont even need a share issue. Lennon got us to the last 16 on less than what this joker has had to work with.

    Get a proper manager who can get us into the CL.

    Use the CL money to strengthen the first 11 (not the squad the first 11, blow it all on a single player if we have to)

    Thats it.

    Thats all we have to do.
     
  15. CookieMonster Geez yer cookies Gold Member

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    Pretty simple, he doesn't want to speak to media and doesn't feel the need to. That's why employs people to do the talking.
    He's not interested, just wants to make some money back and wants to get us into the EPL. That's the only thing he says when talking to the press, wanting the EPL for all that money.
     
  16. CookieMonster Geez yer cookies Gold Member

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    Took Lennon 3 seasons, which gave him time to build his own team and there were many ups & downs along the way under Lenny.
    Obviously not completely comparable but if you sell your best performers in Europe this is what happens.

    If they are going to back Ronny then they need to back him properly in the summer, get the targets in early and not take months to find the 'bargains'.
     
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    :97:

    Every season?

    Every appointment of a new manager would be more appropriate and if DD isn't willing to invest into underwriting shares then he should shown the door, there is no point in him being on the Board if hes using us as a ornament because Celtic means more.


    Is it really? Considering Mr Lawwell stated himself we can go out and sign a £8m player if we want we just choose not to.

    Its that attitude in his financial conduct that tells you everything that the Board are not willing to be flexible enough and as a result its becoming detrimental, if you want to deny this FACT then I completely give up on this conversation because its so insulting to the general support that we can do so much better to match our size.
     
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    * dammit they have slinked back out I am outta here before I lose my head.
     
  19. CookieMonster Geez yer cookies Gold Member

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    Cheerio :bbpd:
     
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    Allergic to shaving foam.