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Who would be your replacement for Ronny?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by _DannyBhoy_, Jan 31, 2016.

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  1. CookieMonster Geez yer cookies Gold Member

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    Lennon rebuilt the squad with bought players, Ronny got in 5 loans and not 1 was bought and only 2 done well anyway. You can't rebuild a team with loans.
    The reason Lennon left was because he wasn't getting backed enough, getting in players he never wanted.
    I doubt Ronny wanted the players on loan, Denayer probably the only one and Roberts recently but they are short term fixes the squad still needed replacements ready before players were sold off.
     
  2. realshocks

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    Did you just describe Inter Milan and Fenerbahce as 'fodder' for Celtic?

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  3. Senna s1979

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    I honestly think the reason we ended up with loans is because Ronny didn't have any transfer targets of his own.
    Plus Lennon had about 5 free transfers as well.
    He left because he wasn't getting backed - but that's not saying Ronny wasn't just that Lennon wasn't going to be backed how he felt he should be.
    Who knows he may have asked for 100% of transfer revenue to be spent.
     
  4. Seosamh Máirtín

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    Yes, and that's the kind of thing both Rodgers and Keane would say, which is why I want them installed as managers. It's called being a winner. We should rid ourselves of this inferiority complex we've developed.
     
  5. Liam Scales

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    No, that's called not knowing your limitation. Motherwell and Ross County are fodder for us. Teams in Europe are challenges that we can overcome if done right, it'll never be easy for us but we sure as * can do it. Teams like Fenerbache and Inter will never be 'fodder' for us.
     
  6. realshocks

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    Are you discussing the psychology of confidence in sport or realistically asserting that those teams are so utterly inferior that viewing them as fodder detracts from us thinking that those results demonstrate that we have players who can perform at a decent level on their day? I see no reason to dismiss those results due to some wackbar idea about confidence tbh.

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  7. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Fodder is a bit harsh.

    Both spent millions on their squads and had players in most positions who were better than anything we could even come close to affording.

    No Barcelona or Juventus' no, however still had quality players who could easily punish a side like us given the chance.
     
  8. Seosamh Máirtín

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    It's a bit of both, to be honest. I don't think Inter has the ability to draw the world's best players as they once did. Their best player against us was Shaqiri. Other than him, no real standouts. You're talking about them having one or two exceptional players that we could never have. So it's really similar to international football when you have the likes of Ireland or Scotland playing a Sweden or Poland. They may have a world class player or two like Lewandowski or Ibrahimovic, but if you have our support and a good determination about you, there's no reason we can't overcome them.

    Fodder is maybe the wrong word, but there's no reason to not think we can't take something from them, which does highlight my point.
     
  9. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    No I agree that we should have belief against a team at their level.

    There needs to be the right balance though. We did attack Inter however defensive slips and stupid mistakes ultimately * us.

    Fenerbache the same story, we did attack them but Efe Ambrose made sure that we were going to be up against it after racing into an early lead. Linking in with what I meant in regards to 'giving them the chance'. They might not be world class sides however they are still ultimately a couple tiers above us on paper at the very least, so if you give guys even at the level of Fernandao chances, they will punish you.

    We have too many players who likes to give chances for my liking:smiley-laughing002:
     
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    The likes of Icardo, Guarin, Medel, Campagnaro, Handonivic, Palacio, Santon, Kovacic as well. All well beyond our reach as players.
     
  11. Seosamh Máirtín

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    Think they kept Kovacic on the bench or they didn't really utilise him, but the rest are passable. You'll not see them at any of Europe's top clubs. Icardo is maybe the exception because of the dearth in top strikers atm.
     
  12. AJ Styles Moussa Dembele's eyes Gold Member

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    Fenerbache were more then beatable 4 points off them this season was possible apart from defensive * ups we had them rocked at home until they brought that Fernandao * on
     
  13. Liam Scales

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    We aren't one Europe's top clubs. They are all comfortably above what we could get. Only guy who was near that kinda company for us got sent off in the 2nd leg, which didn't help.

    Teams like that aren't fodder mate.

    Handonivic is definitely one of the best keepers in the world for me as well, he's exceptional.

    Shaqiri is the guy you singled out and he plays for Stoke.
     
  14. MagicBallBhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    i think our team and players are actually very good for what we pay them, we have drifted under ronnie since the end of the european campaign which is why the football has been attrocious

    since the end of the european campaign we have been rudderless, we could have laid off ronnie and got someone else in but it could have ended up a nightmare scenario lol
    you see big clubs all over europe getting shot of a coach at the beginning, midseason or near end of the season if it just ain't working but i can't remember us doing this too often.

    if we get a coach good reputation from europe and ambitous i would be happy and yes i could see us qualify but we need a few players
     
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    Until we Efe'd up:smiley-laughing002:

    Fenerbache were *, they had good players but were not a team whatsoever, all played as individuals and focused far too much on Kieran Tierney, who handled them brilliantly.
     
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    As soon as they brought that big guy on Efe fell to pieces have to credit there manager for the decision
     
  17. Liam Scales

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    Nah, he was there only option after an injury. That was more sheer luck I'd think :smiley-laughing002:

    Even at that Efe was coping perfectly fine, then done his moment of madness. That's when he started Efeing up.
     
  18. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Player by player, that Inter team should have humped us. They didn't have any superstars really, but the likes of Icardi, Guarin and Palacio are players of a high standard.

    As a team, though, they were extremely ordinary and we should have beaten them at CP. The goals we conceded were woeful.
     
  19. Seosamh Máirtín

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    Yeah man, and that's the type of club that'll be going in for the players you listed. The EPL is a bloated mess of money, but all the same, Inter don't exactly have the players to cause us sleepless nights anymore. Growing up, they had the likes of Zamorano, Vierri, Ronaldo, etc. up front but no more. No reason we can't beat them.
     
  20. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    As you say towards the end of that post, we need 3 or 4 good level players. In terms of what we can afford, I'd say we need to look at others like Sviatchenko.

    Breaking into the international fold, won things in their respective league and won't cost a bomb. There are players like that all over Europe who have enough technical ability and intelligence to make a difference in the play-offs against teams of a similar level.

    Right now we don't have a player that teams would fear or take notice of. I think Roberts could be that player but he will need help.
     
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