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Who would be your replacement for Ronny?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by _DannyBhoy_, Jan 31, 2016.

Discuss Who would be your replacement for Ronny? in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

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  1. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Clarke just strikes me as more of an assistant manager than a manager. Not sure how I'd feel if he took over.
     
  2. mmmikey

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    Pretty confident he can organise a good defence though based on Chelsea and West Brom.
     
  3. doctor venglos

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    I am all in for Steve Clarke.

    The argument for Steve Clarke is both compelling and utterly convincing in my opinion.

    It could also be strongly argued that Steve Clarke should really have been given the job two year ago, and that we would be in a very different position if he had.

    1. Clarke is currently without a club, but not without offers, there would be no costly severance package to hire him.
    2. Clarke has expressed a keen desire for the job in the press.
    3. Clarke possesses verifiable excellent man management skills
    4. Clarke has coached under some of the best managers in the business, including Mourinho, Zola and Dalglish..
    5. Clarke was harshly treated at both his former clubs West Brom and Reading, where he had both clubs in relatively secure positions, and was sacked by Reading for wanting to speak to Fulham on their open managerial position. Clarke led to Reading to their first-ever FA Cup semi-final
    6. Clarke is a low risk potential appointee in the mould of the successful Mark Warburton type, it could be argued forcefully that is what Celtic currently need, a successful management team for the next 3-5 years, not a big name high risk appointee.
    7. Clarke is a boyhood Celtic supporter and is very well versed in Scottish football.
     
  4. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Here's my counter-argument;

    1. Steve Clarke is a * Manager who has won less in Management than the successful Warbles.
     
  5. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Think the bold Doc is Clarke's agent.
     
  6. Dr. Frasier Crane

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    That's a * argument to be fair.
     
  7. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    But no less of a correct one.
     
  8. jamesfr

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    Don't want Clarke ,it has to be Moyes or, my preference, Rodgers
     
  9. The Thumb

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    Desmond clearly wants Keane, so we probabily going to get Keane
     
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  11. Dr. Frasier Crane

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    Not really, Deila had won more than Warburton, look how well that worked out.
     
  12. Free the Adblock Gold Member Gold Member

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    But it's still a correct argument. Nothing factually incorrect in it.
     
  13. TheHolyGoalie

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    I'd be quite happy with Steve Clarke as manager.
     
  14. ordinaryman

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    Doc, they are all very persuasive points but you don't know we'd be in a very different position. You may think that but you don't know that.

    Steve Clarke's most successful times were when he was Asst. Apart from the FA Cup semi he did little other than keep Reading from getting relegated to Div 1. If you're going to use FA Cup as a yardstick then in recent years, what about Kenny Jackett - Milwall or Nigel Clough - Sheffield Utd?

    He got sacked by Reading because he wanted to talk to Fulham re the Manager's position. If he was that valued and Fulham wanted him so much, he would have got the job, but he didn't.

    For me, he's a very good Asst, which is what Ronny should have been. We don't need an Asst. We need a strong Manager. Someone who's done the job before. My concern is we end up with one of the MONs, or Lenny or Keane, none of whom I would want. Where we are at the moment, I have absolutely no idea who should come in - so you are a better man than me for coming up with someone.
     
  15. Saul Goodman Gold Member Gold Member

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    Clarke as Moyes' assistant would be fine.
     
  16. Clint Eastwood The Good Bad and Ugly of TC

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    Clarke actually saying he'd like to be contacted doesn't bode well for him as surely if he was in contention they'd have contacted him by now. Though then again perhaps the board just hasn't contacted anyone yet and are waiting until the season finishes.

    Anyways I'm going to say what I think Clarke can bring to the table in terms of being a manager. Looking back at Clarke's time at WBA, they at times played an exciting fast paced counter-attacking brand of football. Utilising the pace of both Odemwingie and Long. He also introduced the impressive Yacob to sitting just in front of the back four, clearly understanding how important a holder is. He also managed to get the best our of James Morrison which saw him become an increasingly more prolific goal-scoring midfielder. He was also noted to get his side set up well without the ball and had them defending set-pieces initially better than any team in the premier league. They defended a mixture of zonal marking as well as man-to-man for specific opposition threats. They quickly picked up wins over Liverpool and Chelsea as well as having the best home record in the PL heading into December of 2012. He was also a manager who helped develop Romelu Lukaku whilst he was on lone at the baggies. I also feel that he speaks a language that players understand and appreciate, this is why I feel he had early success at both WBA and Reading. I think most would agree that both times that he was sacked was incredibly harsh and we've yet to see how well he can build a team when he is truly given to do so.
     
  17. Dr. Frasier Crane

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    The fact he's a * manager isn't factually correct, it's an opinion.
     
  18. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    How did it turn out? 2 League Titles and a Cup in 2 Seasons?

    Ronny Deila is vastly more successful than both Warburton and Clarke. In fact, combined.
     
  19. DannyBhoy_1990

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    We don't just need a good manager, we need a galvanising force! Someone to unite the fans and show a real statement of intent! A Moyes or Rodgers would be top of my list! :50:
     
  20. Dr. Frasier Crane

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    You're arguing against your own point now? So Steve Clarke could be successful despite having won less than Warburton. In fact, your whole point about Warburton seems pointless now.
     
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