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Android or iPhone?

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by Callum McGregor, Nov 19, 2015.

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  1. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    I have a windows phone. I'm the one true hipster on this here forum.
     
  2. Onefootwonder

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    The entire world is geared for Apple products and apps? That's a grossly exaggerated statement.

    Apple products can't even be used for basic file sharing from a computer to the device and vice versa. What should be very basic drag and drop needs the support of apps to achieve a simple process.

    There's still a lot of websites that don't work with iPhone and pads. Some of the websites with drop bars fail to work on them.

    Anyone that's remotely interested in phones and technology would be aware of NFC, Samsung and Android Pay. Loads of folk have iPhone and haven't got a clue how to use Apple Pay even though they've seen the adverts on TV.

    The only time I've seen it used is at McDonald's and Greggs. It hardly serves the biggest purpose when the spending limit is £20. I see some now have a £30 limit.

    It's hardly a bragging point when it's a service that not many people will use, it's not available in most places, and it's so restictive.

    Not exactly what I'd call geared up.
     
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  3. Onefootwonder

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    Contactless bank cards have been on offer for ages too and nearly everyone has a bank card.

    Nobody really uses them or bothers about them.

    It's laughable that nobody makes a big deal about these services, yet when Apple offer it, suddenly it's a bragging point and something more than it is.

    It's nothing new or special.
     
  4. .L.

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    Strongest brand in the world and have the right brand image communicated. The power of marketing, whether they are technologically better or not, the fact the Apple logo is on the device make everyone believe that it's the best. Coca-Cola is like that with Pepsi. When a taste test was done blind Pepsi was ever so slightly preferred but Coca-Cola was preferred by a large majority when a taste test was done with the labels displayed. It's mental to think that something like the apple on the back of a laptop or a phone can be line between whether your product is going to be widely judged as good or bad.
     
  5. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    You are trying to teach your granny how to suck eggs.

    However, most people aren't 'remotely interested' in technology because the vast majority of people don't know what NFC or Andriod Pay are.

    Apple has taken it to the mass market, as it has done with a vast majority of tech that has existed for years before it done so. Which is my entire point.
     
  6. Idioteque I’ll laugh until my head comes off

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    lets be honest, there is very little difference between the top shelf phones these days. I have a windows phone for work, its *. I recently swapped from a I phone 6 to Xperia Z5 the main reason is because ts water proof, my last 2 I phones have went in the drink. The Camera on the Sony is great, thats the only major difference Ive noticed between them.
    Cost me £550 rather than nearly £700 for a new I phone so its definitely value for money too.
     
  7. Dáibhí

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    Sorry, you're flat-out wrong there I'm afraid. As I stated previously I use an iPhone precisely because it allows me to link seamlessly with my MacBook and iPad for work reasons, and that includes sharing documents and files.

    I don't even have to drag and drop, because whatever is on my MacBook is available on my iPhone instantly.

    If your argument is that iPhone isn't compatible with Windows laptops, then fair enough. But to be honest, anyone who's using windows for anything other than recreation is * mental in my opinion.
     
  8. Onefootwonder

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    I still haven't got a clue what your "entire point" is? I've asked, and I'm still no wiser.

    The question was what does Apple do that Android doesn't. You've picked something that is available on Andorid, under a different name, and just muttered on about a lot of fanboy pish.

    Mass market? Contactless payments can already be classed mass market as nearly everyone has a bank card with the facility available if they choose. They haven't though.

    I can't see any figures for usage of Apple Pay in the UK, but the Americans are questioning it as pointless as only a tiny amount of people use it. That's when so many people have iPhones and far more payment points than we have.

    However some people, like yourself, are painting Apple as pioneers for offering an old service that has been tried before and has never become popular.

    Apple Pay has been on the go for months now and I've seen it used twice. Even for the Apple fanboys, it still doesn't appear popular.

    Looking at the list of shops Apple pay works, there is only 28, half the places I rarely go, many of them are London based, then the places I do use, I spend more than the very low payment limit. It's near pointless. I guess it says a lot when half the shops are fast food.
     
  9. Onefootwonder

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    Apple products do work well with each other. If you've got various Apple devices they all tie up well with each other.

    The problem comes when you have to communicate with others. I've lost count how many times this has caused issues over the years.
     
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    Apple fanboys vs Android fanboys.

    Never seen it coming :smiley-laughing002:
     
  11. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Leave the house then because I see people using Apple Pay and contactless, literally, daily. It has been taken on everywhere.
     
  12. Onefootwonder

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    Everywhere is 28 places for Apple. Read the 28 and work out how many you use and keep your spending under £20. Quite a few of them are London based shops and services.

    I'm out and about quite a bit. Nearly everyone I see, including myself even though I could use my phone or contactless card, choose to pay with cash or chip and pin.

    Like I said though, from the 28 shops on the list, I either rarely go to them, or my spending is well over the £20 limit. Half of the shops are junk food and the likes.

    Reading some of the American sites, they say that users of Apple Pay is dropping all the time. They are down to just 13% of iPhone users using Apple Pay.

    A survey I read here say as low 3% for the UK. Given you need an iPhone 6 or newer for Apple Pay, we aren't talking massive numbers.

    By far the most commonly used service for Apple Pay is London transport. It's used 4x more there than second on the list. They've already got Oyster cards that work a treat anyway. We keep cards for when visiting London.

    Just reading the feedback for Apple Pay, most places that offer it have had more negative reviews than positive for the service.

    So sorry your "everywhere" is far from it and is "mass market".

    It's a very restictive service that hadn't taken off before and it reads if Apple's is clearly in regression already too.
     
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  13. stew37

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    Have used both and without getting too involved or being too controversial, Android is better.
     
  14. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I can copy paste Google searches myself, thanks :56:

    Also, you are wrong.
     
  15. Onefootwonder

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    You'd be better Googling some things rather than talking complete *.

    I've crossed paths a couple of times on here, cars being the obvious one, and you stand out as being clueless, yet proclaim to be in the know.

    I asked a simple question at the start of the thread, and you've attempted to argue black is white just to be right.

    A stupid argument that's progressively got worse and I still don't know what your point actually is.
     
  16. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Ok, I'll say it again for the avoidance of doubt.

    For the layman, Apple products are more commonplace as everyday solutions as opposed to Android which (despite having alternatives) aren't as well known.

    Many folk you talk to think tablet computers are actually called 'iPads' as an example. Not everyone are Google geniuses like yourself.
     
  17. Big Boss Gold Member Gold Member

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    Canny quote Daihbi but that line "anyone who uses Windows for anything other than recreation is mental" is a load of *. What do you think they have for servers (alongside Linux)? Or workstations? I mean, most of our cash machines run on a near 15 year old version of Windows for *'s sake. If that doesn't tell you how practical it is I don't know what does.

    I guess in that case most of the business, finance and IT sectors are "mental" then.

    Also, while I understand the ease of iCloud and the like for Apple devices, it's so easy to keep things synced between different devices nowadays that you'd have to be an idiot to not be able to do it, so that isn't really an advantage anymore. It's certainly a * pain when Apple try to do everything to keep their wee monopoly on the go and limit linkage with non-iOS devices whereas I can easily share everything between my Windows, Android and Linux devices.

    What? Aren't as commonplace? Android mobile and tablet devices have a bigger market share.

    "Many folk" don't call tablets iPad's other than a few old folk in my experience. Anyway, that's just your own personal experience anyway, proves nothing.

    Actually, what are you trying to prove here exactly? It's better because it's more popular?
     
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  18. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    Good old TC. The only place where people can have a right heated debate about * phones. :smiley-laughing002:
     
  19. ORIGINALS

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    iPhone for me, but windows over macs.
     
  20. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Android.
    Using a Z3 the now, plan on upgrading to the Z5(or whatever is out when due). Battery life is superb! Best I've seen in many a years, in fact best I've seen in a smartphone.

    Windows I really love the look, the simplicity of it. It's a great operating system, and as mentioned early on in the thread, it is great on low end devices. Microsoft pretty much standardised the specs to make sure the best experience across the board with regards the phones running Windows.
    Apps are/were lacking when I had it, but not to the dealbreaking point. Defo recommend to anyone toying with the idea.

    Would generally stay away from iPhone though, I'm a tad biased, but simply put I find them overpriced, overhyped and full of *. Fashion statement at best, and the fact that Apple sold their soul long ago sums up the entire company and users these days.