1. Having trouble logging in by clicking the link at the top right of the page? Click here to be taken to the log in page.
    Dismiss Notice

Paris...shootings and explosions

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by CH4, Nov 13, 2015.

  1. This Charming Man

    This Charming Man

    Messages:
    5,728
    Location:
    The Waste Land
    We're not going to have a thread on here for every time someone in the world dies mate. I think this hits home more because it could have easily been an attack in the UK, given the similarities between France and the UK, both being majority White, Western and Christian countries in Europe.
     
  2. Callum McGregor

    Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

    Messages:
    71,455
    Location:
    London
    Might be going slightly off topic here, but the retaliation and attitude towards Muslims on the streets of these countries, could have one arguing that they are still the victims of these attacks, on some level.
     
  3. It is that way though even in America id guess. When theres daily stabbing and shootings in a really rough place say a rough area of Chicago or New York daily, people probably don't take any notice of it even the media if its happening all the time as everyone knows "aye that areas * up, thats why I dont go anywhere near it" but if it happened in a nicer quieter area then it would be big news as its more unusual.

    I agree though that bigger more knowledgable countries with better technology and set ups should help countries like Lebanon and Nigeria instead of do fuckall and ignore while there are daily suicide bombings.
     
  4. mygirlmaria

    mygirlmaria

    Messages:
    19,140
    Location:
    Edinburgh
    Yes, if its a multiple shooting spree, but individual murders.....nope, only if its a celebrity.

    Maybe it was a bad analogy, but you get my point.Its like the old Stalin quote.....One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.
     
  5. Callum McGregor

    Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

    Messages:
    71,455
    Location:
    London
    Yeah, that's because the human mind can't cope with the level of hurt you'd need to feel to be able to emphasise with high numbers of deaths. We just aren't built to empathise with the deaths of millions.
     
  6. Sean Daleer

    Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

    Messages:
    77,228
    I'm as guilty as anyone for not caring as much about lives lost in the Middle East. It just seems like it's the norm over there now, people expect it and it's not shocking any more.

    Like Minty said, Muslims are far more likely to be the victims of these terrorist attacks than Christians.

    Yet we blame Muslims for all the worlds ills. The vast majority of Muslims want to live in peace just like the rest of us. Sadly their region is one big chess game these days and they have no * chance of a peaceful life.

    All they can do is risk their life trying to escape it, only to get to the promised land and find that everycunt hates them and wants them dead because they are all terrorists.
     
  7. mygirlmaria

    mygirlmaria

    Messages:
    19,140
    Location:
    Edinburgh
    Yes, but hopefully not.
    I know even i as an ardent anti muslim atheist would never even attempt to make a single innocent muslim feel in any way guilty or bad for any act carried out in the name of his/her religion.....and i think most people are similarly civilised.Its just a shame the nutters get all the headlines.
     
  8. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke

    Messages:
    7,102
    Isn't it also Muslims who are attacking Muslims though? Or is it Christians?
     
  9. Sean Daleer

    Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

    Messages:
    77,228
    Both. And Jews, and athiests and oil barons and...

    Could go and on really.
     
  10. This Charming Man

    This Charming Man

    Messages:
    5,728
    Location:
    The Waste Land
    Ye, it's mainly to do with the fact that Muslims are surrounded by the other Muslims who commit these acts. It makes note of the victim, but failed to mention the perpetrator? Odd.
     
  11. Sean Daleer

    Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

    Messages:
    77,228
    Yeah, Christians haven't killed anyone in the Middle East. :rolleyes:

    For * sake.
     
  12. mygirlmaria

    mygirlmaria

    Messages:
    19,140
    Location:
    Edinburgh
    Yes, im totally incapable of emphasising high numbers!:smiley-laughing002:



    .....but i empathise with your spelling frailties!



    Only kiddin on.:bbpd:
     
  13. Callum McGregor

    Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

    Messages:
    71,455
    Location:
    London
    Sadly, it'll always be the worst news that gets the headlines. In the world we live in, the media and people are becoming more and more used to grotesque, sensationalist headlines and we get more information than ever before. Ignorance is rife. I have a muslim wife and I've been to many mosques, I know what many muslims are like first hand, they are appalled by these terrorists but they hate having to justify their faith because of the actions of others.
     
  14. Sean Daleer

    Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

    Messages:
    77,228
    The Christian terrorist has killed more Muslims in the Middle East than anyone.

    Or do we only refer to them as their religion when they are Muslim?
     
  15. Callum McGregor

    Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

    Messages:
    71,455
    Location:
    London
    Yes.
     
  16. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke

    Messages:
    7,102
    Can I ask because I don't know a lot about it, are they being killed because they are Muslims and the Christians are killing for their religion?
     
  17. Sean Daleer

    Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

    Messages:
    77,228
    It's the same at home too. How many times do you read, "Muslim male rapes girl"

    Do you ever read "Christian male rapes girl"?

    No, you read "Man rapes woman".
     
  18. This Charming Man

    This Charming Man

    Messages:
    5,728
    Location:
    The Waste Land
    What's He/She called?
     
  19. Sean Daleer

    Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

    Messages:
    77,228
    Ask George W Bush and his "Crusade".
     
  20. But we only do that cause theres no other name to give to them. Like Britain and America, Nato and other things they can be called what they are.

    Guy on the news actually said it a wee while ago, that Terrorists used to be state sponsored 30/40 year ago and would be called for example "Libyan Terrorists" but now they've all split up into wee factions across the globe and are really all affiliated even though they could be inviduals or groups with different names from different countries.

    They have become known as Muslim just because thats the only label that fits them even though it also tarnishes good people.

    Same as me the other day on here I dont like the British Army even the WW1 and 2 "heroes" as they have been tarnished.

    Or there are decent huns who id call wanks just for being huns or you get the people who hate all polis even though there are decent polis.

    The religion has been used in the name to label the people and been associated with it but its just how it is.