Ronny Out?

Why?

Stick with someone who can't get us qualified for the CL as opposed to someone with a bit of experience who will organise us properly and get us into shape to qualify?

Don't get hung up on Lambert, I just mentioned his name as a possible alternative. The bigger immediate issue is Deila. Sticking with Deila is a bigger gamble than sacking him in my view. The performance and result v Ajax will confirm that one way or the other.

 

Aye, because that's the same.

 

A bit of experience? Deila and Lambert have been managing for the same length of time, and Deila has achieved more in management as well. There is nothing to suggest Lambert would have us any more organised either. He was taking Aston Villa down last season until he was sacked and Sherwood come in and dug them out a hole, and I don't rate him one bit as a manager.

If it was David Moyes on the other hand, I would agree. Although I'm not sure he would come here and work under Lawwell and co.

 

That's your credibility out the window. :bbpd:

 

No he hasn't. He won a league in Norway before coming to Celtic. Lambert has done a good job at Wycombe and then at Norwich.

Remember he dug Villa out of a hole the first season he was there, then he got sacked, Sherwood came in dug them out, then he gets sacked, Remi Garde is next. That's the way clubs like Villa and Sunderland and Newcastle etc. operate.

I wouldn't blame Lambert for not making progress at Villa, no-one can make progress at Villa and those other clubs who's only ambition is to exist in the EPL. Lambert would be able to handle the pressure better than Deila I reckon. Looks like Lambert will be going to Blackburn or QPR anyway, both those are keen to get him.

 

He won a league and a cup in Norway, and has now won a league and a cup in Scotland. He has also took us to the knock-out stages of a European competition. That's more than what Lambert has done in management.

 

If you're going to insist on comparing the two then you have to put it in context. Lambert has operated with clubs in a more competitive environment and operated more often when under pressure. Maybe he has won more cups but Deila hasn't done more than what Lambert has done in management. If Lambert was here last year he'd have won the league and a Cup at least as well.

You are wrong, Deila hasn't done more than what Lambert has done in management.

 

I think taking a very small club in Norway and winning a league and a cup is a more competitive enviornment tbh.

 

Thats like saying I would take Jonjo Shelvey but im not sure he would come here to work under Ronny Deila.

It's got no chance of happening because we can't afford him to begin with. Dont know how much Celtic managers are paid but i'd guess around £10k per week. Moyes will eventually end up in an EPL job at a team like Aston Villa or Sunderland or Newcastle or some mob probably on about £60k per week.

 

Lambert won a league title in English League 1. Is that more competitive or more of an achievement than winning the Norwegian Tippeligaen? His biggest achievement in my opinion was finishing 2nd in the Championship and getting promoted. Ronny Deila has been working under more pressure the last 15 or so months than Lambert ever will, unless he does get the job here. You don't know what would have happened had Lambert been managing here last year. He might have won at least a double, he might not have. You can't say with any certainty either way.

Going back on your earlier point as well. Lambert never dug Villa out of a hole in his first season. He was appointed the manager before the season had even started.

 

No I disagree. Back to back promotions with Norwich. Reasonable record with Colchester and Wycombe before that. Then managed in the EPL, keeping Villa in the top flight for two seasons before being sacked half way through the following season. I would say Lambert has a more impressive CV despite the leagues and cups Ronny has.

 

It's not like saying that at all.

 

Mowbray's done about as well as Lambert.

His Hibs team were probably the best footballing diddy team the SPL's seen in the last 20 year and with all young players, think they finished 3rd twice? then he done well at West Brom, again got them playing good football and promoted. * with us, average at Middlesbrough but now at Coventry and will probably get them promoted this season after numerous * years stuck in League 1.

 

It is, Moyes can still earn £millions per year. He's not going to give that up to manage us and earn peanuts, especially when he's got nothing to gain out of it, it could only go * up and if he were to be sacked it would be the final nail in his coffin for ever earning decent money again he'd end up managing Nottingham Forest or Sheffield if it went bad here.

Where as he could go to the EPL to a Newcastle earn 6x the money and even if he * up he could probably still walk into another EPL job earning 6x the money and if he * up again Celtic would probably still take him.

Theres as much chance of Moyes coming here as there is Wanyama coming back.

 

I think you have totally missed the point I was trying to make. What I'm saying is that I personally would love Moyes to come here, I don't see it happening either though. However, I just don't think he would want to come and work under Lawwell and co etc, where we are constantly selling our best players and buying bargain basement to replace them and hope they turn out to be good. Money would also be another reason I don't see him coming here though.

 

I'm not arguing about the CV, just the competitive nature of both managers reigns at another club.

Winning the league with a small unfancied team, is very, very competitive.

 

If Larsson had the record of Deila for example at the Swedish team "Mjallby" who I think are one of the diddy teams in Sweden, * on here would be wanking over him and demanding his appointment :smiley-laughing002:

 

No, disagree with that. I'd say the opposite is the case.

 

The usual cliched remark.

That doesn't change the reality Celtic are in now, where Ronny Deila thus far is failing to make an impact in Europe.