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What changes would you like to see at the club

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by shaunm, Nov 3, 2015.

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  1. shaunm

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    I would like for us to have a much smaller squad,freeing up wages allowing for a higher wage cap ie possible 5 or 6 players able to earn 40k a week.would hopefully improve the standard of player we were buying and give our best youngsters a better oppurtuntiy of breaking through.Would love to have a B team in the lower leagues,would help our youngsters greatly imo.Any suggestions?
     
  2. JamesM09

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    I think 5 or 6 players at 40k is unrealistic, but yeah, a smaller squad with a couple of higher paid players is an idea. I would only say that we play a lot of games every season so if we trim the squad too much and pick up an injury or 2 we could be in real trouble.

    It really comes down to the manager. Some prefer larger squads and some prefer smaller squads.
     
  3. Intellectually Absurd Gold Member Gold Member

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    5 players earning £40k a week is just over £46m iver 4 years (an average contract) what happens if they are duff?
     
  4. Bangarangura

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    i think increasing the wage cap is ridiculous and would promote a lazy culture in the scouting department....yeah just throw 40k at him...* it. Thats just not economical, there have been great and positive changes made in the last 5-10 years and the benefits will be reaped for years to come. I really wouldn't change much, one of the best run clubs in europe and thats a fact.
     
  5. og1

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    There is a solution to that. Dont sign them on 40k. Give the likes of Victor that sort of cash to keep him here.
     
  6. shaunm

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    I don't think it is mate,youngsters likeFisher, Tierney,Henderson,Nesbitt,McMullan would thrive in our first 11 imo,we would prob still win the league with those 5 in the first 11 topped up with 5 or 6 quality players.These guys wont be earning even half of what Lustig,Izzy,Broony,Johansen and Gms are earning.Btw love Lustig and Broony,but for wages they earn we can do better
     
  7. Intellectually Absurd Gold Member Gold Member

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    Agreed.

    However I honestly think it would not make a difference. Players want to play in the biggest and best leagues: La Liga, EPL, Serie A, Bundesliga and Ligue 1. We're a big club but the league doesn't cut the mustard and its the same for teams in Holland too.

    I don't believe for a second we could have kept Vic even if we offered him £40k a week. Gary Hooper left and ended up 'only' on about £30k a week at Norwich so he wasn't chasing silly money but the league itself.

    To get good players to play in a duff league you need to throw silly money at them, hence why you see supreme talents strolling about in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, China, Russia and Ukraine. All the oil rich, democracy poor nations have these dodgy oil barons giving it laldy with their money and can attract pretty big names.

    We don't have rich owners that are willing to throw money at us hand over fist. We can't anyway because we are a PLC. We can't because this is Scotland/United Kingdom and not some tinpot autocratic state and I dunno how the FFP rules would work aswell.

    Sad state of affairs but it is what it is.
     
  8. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    Not sure about the whole 40k thing but I would like a change to our wage cap policy thingymabob. Surely giving someone like Vic/Hooper/Ledley the couple of million it takes to sign their replacement is better than actually signing their replacement, who invariably turns out to be a project that may or may not work out.

    Using those names as a guide, obviously at least two of them wanted to leave anyway.
     
  9. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Fantastic solution that.

    Give Victor big wages when what he wants is to play Liverpool, United, City and Chelsea week in and week out.

    Makes sense.
     
  10. shaunm

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    How many players do you think we have missed out on because of our wage cap?to get good players to come to Scotland you need to pay good money.I would rather fewer foreigners on big wages topped up with our best youngsters,instead of signing other Spl players,our youngster are probably on a par or better than the Scottish lads we have signed,just not been given a chance.
     
  11. og1

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    Did he not speak to the redtops at the time saying he was sad to be leaving? I think he did. I think if we would have matched the wages that Southampton paid him or significantly lowballed them and got him to sign, I think our chances of recovering those wages through CL participation would have increased. Paying a player 40k a week wont harm us. Nowhere near it, like people say the amount of duds who get paid accumulates to a lot more than that.
     
  12. og1

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    I totally agree with this and I have been banging that drum for quite some time. Lawwell is reluctant to pay any man that sort of wage even if our football club has to pay more overall including fee to replace him. It is * beyond mental.
     
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    I don't think that makes sense mate. Tierney, Henderson, Nesbitt, McMullan and 6 quality players won't be able to compete in Europe, and then you've got to ask what happens when 2 of the quality players are burned out or injured, who replaces them? If you add a few more youths to that pot we're too weak.. if you add a couple of Armstrong, Izzy and Christie, you begin to arrive at where we are already.

    I get what you're saying though.
     
  14. shaunm

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    Out with the big leagues, EPL LA LIGA BUNDESLIGA,if we offered the best players from the other leagues 40k a week we would be signing really good players imo.
     
  15. Dallas Cowbhoys

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    Make Lawwell and the board's wages and bonuses dependent on our European success. Something like that anyway.

    Get Ambrose to *.
     
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    I honestly wonder if we should start looking into players in the twilight of their career, who are still performing well, and looking for a place to retire, to come over here on a loan and make an impact. Who knows we could get another Lubo etc. And I think that if our squad is playing alongside a player of that quality with all of that experience it may inspire them and lift the entire team up in spirit and quality. I know that signing players aged 30+ is often looked down upon here, but perhaps that is not the right attitude to have
     
  17. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    I guess the worry then is everyone else starts banging down the door looking for parity.

    Tricky one really.
     
  18. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    I think we should expand our wage cap a bit however putting half a starting 11 on 40 or 50k is not realistic for us anymore.
     
  19. shaunm

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    I think they would compete mate as hopefully the higher wage players would be of a better quality than we have at the minute,we aren't competing at the minute, Legia,Malmo,molde it is * shocking these * are beating us,we are a very big club with a massive fan base,we should be rag dolling these *
     
  20. Intellectually Absurd Gold Member Gold Member

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    Most have already been scouted by the bigger leagues. It's a horrible situation we and many other clubs are in. The larger leagues have a monopoly on the market and Uefa have only served to promote this even further.

    The standard of player below that then opens up a risk factor, why pay £30k a week to someone who is decent, nothing special but might flop and or get injured? When you can take someone a bit less talented than him and pay him £10k a week i.e. less risk.