Flares and their continued use

It's like being in a relationship with someone who cheats we fight fallout say we'll never see each other again but always end up back together after a little bit of time has past because we need each other







Or we could have a different type of ownership based on democracy

 

The fans who think that flares are somehow ruining our reputation are only tuning into the criticism directed solely at our club by the tabloids, whom for some reason don't show the same sort of discontent for other teams who use flares and will use any reason to beat us down anyway. Not that I understand just who is changing their mind on our club when they see our fans with coloured smoke in their hands. It's all a bit asinine, but as long as certain fans carry on with this "ruining the reputation" bollocks then the club will carry on with these statements and their subsequent actions.

 

Just don't don't give them ammunition,stop the flares it's easy.

 

They aren't ruining our reputation, far from it. They are undermining FAC though, who are fighting hard to protect our right to political expression.

Just knock them on the head ffs.

 

This should have been the first and last comment on this thread lol.

 

I think FAC would have more luck defending coloured smoke over politically motivated songs in the Scottish system which exists at the moment. I can't help but think that the club are being this harsh with their stance on flares because they know it's the Green Brigade, and there's long standing friction between the board and the GB because of their songbook. They'll be getting two birds with one stone by snapping down on those with flares.

 

Have you watched the FAC debate in the Celtic Supporters Thread?

You should if you haven't seen it. Starts around 20 minutes in.

http://www.scottishparliament.tv/Ar...umber=0&orderByField=PlayCount&queryOrder=ASC

One of the MP's actually says that Sundays scenes doesn't help their cause in the slightest.

 

Just looking through it now. Your man from FAC stated the aim of FAC was to contend with the Offensive Behaviour act. I don't know how flares would infringe on the Offensive Behaviour act, meaning it shouldn't contravene with the discourse being pursued by FAC. Again, to me it just seems they're looking for any reason to demonise our support, and it's a cheap shot to use the flares as a reason for keeping the Offensive Behaviour act.

 

Our reputation most be very thin if all it takes is a bit of green smoke to ruin it.

 

I think lighting a flare that could potentially burn someone, or a smoke bomb that could impact a fan with asthma would likely fall under the "offensive behaviour" banner. Everything else does.

 

Our reputation isn't what is at stake here.

We have some really smart and clued in people fighting our corner for the right to political expression. Flares and smoke bombs are undermining the fight.

Rightly or wrongly, people are using the scenes on Sunday as proof that this offensive behaviour bill is the right course of action.

Kenny MacAskill absolutely embarrassed himself at the meeting today because he had no answer to FAC's excellent points. Then someone else brought up Sunday and all of a sudden we are knocked back a few places in the fight.

What's more important, the right to political expression or a few pyros?

 

and yet there's another group using Pyro.


never mind it's always the Green Brigade with the Smoke Bombs and songs

 

What group? I don't understand why the derision was necessary. I thought it was the Green Brigade's display/pyro, am I wrong?

 

SMV


the green brigade are the easy target for celtic.

 

I've never worried about our reputation regarding flares. I'm not bothered what anyone thinks of them. I've never thought less of teams in Europe when they set them off.

Why they have to stop is they're being used to beat us with and the board have said they're going to ban whoever is caught doing it anyway. I don't want to see fans get banned so they should just stop it. I remember the guy in the video saying he read the Herald and the news of arrests on Sunday set us back but I never quite understood why. If fans get arrested it has nothing to do with the law not being fit for purpose.

True Crow, the GB do get blamed quite readily. I never thought who it was, just looked like wee guys acting daftys.

You don't want to get arrested at away games by the sounds of FAC reports. They make you travel to wherever it was for minor court appearances.

 

The thing is as well, that wasn't just one or two lads lighting flares the other day, that was co-ordinated with the see through banner and smoke and flares. Most of them must have known FAC was going to be up in front of a committee so why give them more ammunition?

I don't understand why we keep shooting ourselves in the foot over our right to political expression. If I was a conspiracy nut I would say that some young lads like being on the wrong side of the law and actually welcome the act so they can cause havoc.

 

You would think we had more important issues to be in uproar about.

 

We do.

I would rather be free to sing Roll of Honour at the match than light a * firework.

This pyro * is counterproductive to the work FAC is doing.

 

And what about that poor *'s bovril the other week, think of the children