Flares and their continued use

Always ? Or just in relation to flares at the football ?

 

Because we get fined for them? Seriously some of the people on here just dont get it

 

Go on then , what is it ?

 

I get you on the second point but after being in the media this week about getting a fine and all, to then let off flares at the game mid week is just stupid.

 

Eh ? I am trying to establish whether you think there is no circumstances at all in like where no matter how wrong a law is you should always just pay the fine and not to do so is moronic ?

 

Mind when they ban or take things away they generally never bring them back. The more stuff fans allow to disappear the worse and worse it will get in future.

Flares are probably 1 of only 3 things left that they havent completely stopped, the other two being offending by song/banner/tshirt and standing.

Once flares are banned/a big deal/taboo, next will be banners via flag sticks and lighters "oh theres too many offensive banners", "oh they are fire hazards". Then it will be the clamp down on standing.

The football match itself probably used to be everything, where you done the singing, dancing, offending, drinking, had a laugh and seen the football all in one. Now it's split, where near enough all the drinking, partying and having a laugh happens outside the stadium, the enjoyment in the stadium is minimal.

 

I said to continue to do something that results in a fine is moronic.
You are asking (or appear to be leading to this) if I think its fair that UEFA seem to fine us but not other clubs, no that's not fair. But that's not the issue being discussed.

 

Did you go to the Inter game last week? Did you have to drink, smoke and let off flares to enjoy yourself and support your team?

Naw.

Standing I agree with you but there is a movement throughout the country to get safe standing into stadiums..

 

nah I'm not. I couldn't give two * about uefa tbh. I am trying to understand if in all circumstances you think you should stop doing something because it may result in a fine. That is why I asked then question because you seem to be talking very generally.

 

I don't understand why people are defending this. I have stood in a smoke filled stadium, not being able to see or breathe, because of the smoke from a flare. It's not what I paid for.
Celtic are in the business of making money to support the football operation. We want to see the best team on the pitch that we can afford.
UEFA have stated under their rules that flares are not allowed and any team can be fined for the actions of their fans. We have been getting fined for breaking their rules.
UEFA will keep fining Celtic, so far the fines have been small but they will grow.
They can close small sections or the fully stadium if they wish, fans can be stopped from travelling. UEFA can do want to clubs that they find are not playing by their rules.
We are not going to win this battle with UEFA.
We claim to be the best fans in the world, at times we have proven this to be true. We have a lot to be proud of, but this issue needs to be fixed before totally undo this hard earn rep.

 

Depends whether the person thinks the fine is fair/justified or not. To take a clearer example, if we got fined for singing ROH or something, I would say the guy was entirely justified in doing so, even in the full knowledge that it would lead to a fine.

OK. I would.

I just don't see the relevance, mate. It costs money to put on a display; it costs money to pay a fine. I don't see the difference unless the fine is justified. But then whether the fine is justified is one of the things we are discussing.

 

That's the problem though, the fine is not justified. Unlike ROH and other songs setting off flares has nothing to do with this clubs heritage; and if it was stopped it would not impact upon us. The fact that only a small number of fans seem intent on doing it is even more pathetic as this small minority is costing the club money that would be better spent in other areas. And whilst some displays are worth collecting fines the 'right' to set off a flare is not.

 

Exactly right! Uefa and/or fifa have banned the * things stop setting them iff and stop bleeting about 'oh roma do it or sparta prague or whoever'.

I get the idea people may have with 'furst flares then what the banners' but tbh if it hinders tge viewing of the game for supporters who pay money to watch the game too then yes itll be stopped!

I appreciate the atmosphere brought by our great fans (including the flare holders by the way ) but the flare is and has been banned so knock it on the head lads

Now for the picking apart of this response to suit the persons argument .... Hail Hail bhoys lets just be happy our team is looking back on track to becoming * great under 3 roar ronny

 

Celtic had already asked the fans not to do it.

Back in the day when some stupid * would throw a bottle it was very common for our fans who were near the *, to put their hands in the air with index finger pointing to him,and rightly so.

 

Who would have seen that? :smiley-laughing002:

More to the point, who would have done anything about it?

Bottles flying was a regular occurence years ago, older people would have shoulder problems with the amount of pointing they done.

Unless it was main stand snobs with their binoculars.

 

Flares make baby Jesus cry.

 

He grew up and loved them though.

Working with all the sawdust and no safety goggles, he was used to foreign substances in his eyes.

Onions plagued him throughout his life though.