1 up front

I was just adding a factual point in to the equation..

Stokes was in that team but for the pretty football they played you didn't rate them much, sounds like a similar pattern of thought to us now..

 

I understand perfectly well what he's trying to achieve. I think there are better options available to achieve a winning and solid team just now while he works towards implementing his own style.

One that doesn't isolate our striker, gets support up the field, lets us get creative goalscorers on the pitch all the while not being outnumbered in midfield.

Right now our striker is isolated, our wingers don't get close enough to our striker, our main man behind the striker isn't a goalscorer, if our striker doesn't score we're floundering about for a source of other goals, we are outnumbered in midfield, our defence are pushed to far up the field and we are allowing teams to get the run on us.

It isn't 'lazy' - it's playing to the best of our players abilities. Anytime we've went 2 up front this season we have looked much better, from Stokes linking upto Guidetti to Scepovic putting Griffiths through on the weekend just there. We had 8 Dundee United players in next to Guidetti at one stage on the weekend with none of our players supporting him. Get the striker some * support on the ball, stop isolating them.

Lazy thinking my hole.

 

Awww, the Falkirk team? Yes, he was. Was the only time they had an end product actually.

 

Yep..

 

Also the time Mochael Higdon ragdolled about McManus and Caldwell and Tim Krul pulled off one of the best saves I've ever seen...

Actually quite liked watching that team.

 

No your right, they were a good little side, was arfield not with that batch as well..

Stokes was on fire for them and latapy was a quality little player..

Big yogi showing signs of that football at inverness , especially what i saw of them second half at Celtic park a couple months back..

 

Aye, Arfield looked a player back then. Wanted to sign him at the time.

He is, added a bit of steel in there as well now. Good football and a bit of reselience, thats what I want about us.

 

But isn't the point that we're approaching the SPFL in the same way that we'd be approaching Europe, with only one striker?

I think it's frustrating and games like Sunday where we can see it isn't happening for us, we should chuck an extra man up top. But I do buy into what Ronny is trying to achieve. Playing like this in the SPFL and honing the formation and tactics will only make us stronger when we utilize them in Europe. We can only get so far trying to sit in against European teams. I'd like to see us have a go at them.

 

I * hope that's not his plan for Europe, that's not just suicide that's blowing yourself up

Imagine having Ambrose up right wing when he's playing centre back and Van Dijk outside the 18 yard box letting someone like Ronaldo and Bale having a free run at the counter attack.

Couldn't handle Erskine never mind that! We need to be far more defensive in Europe, it's a must.

The formation we are playing, with 1 up top, isn't defensive. It's attacking as *. It's just we don't support the striker while attacking and we leave our defence very, very short.

It's all right when we have the ball in midfield, passing it about but our two central midfielders are also outnumbered.

 

The lack of a proper winger is our main problem, playing one up top is fine. Yo can't ask Ronny to implement his own system while also asking him not to play it in the SPFL. We are creating chances and that's what matters - if we weren't I would be worried.

People who say the football is boring with one up top must have missed the last few games where we have played some of the best one-touch, quick moving passes I have seen us play in a long time. Ronny's plan is beginning to come together and it doesn't involve two up top.

 

With no end product. Football is just frustrating if you constantly don't finish it off.

 

We need a covering midfielder to help izzy if we want to push stokes in more still need an other winger for the right side McGregor isn't the answer and Forrest can't be trusted to stay fit

 

It might be frustrating that we're not finishing the chances but it wold be a lot worse if we weren't creating them. The Motherwell game should have been at least 3 or 4 nil, yesterday we scored two perfectly legitimate goals and hit the woodwork 3 times (granted one was Dillon for them) and we completely dominated the game. Slack defending cost us and on another day we score 3. Unfortunately the ball just hasn't been bursting the back of the net as much as we would like recently but we are creating clean cut chances every single game, so I have no doubt the goals will come and they will come playing this system.

 

Sorry mate, I think I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying playing two different styles, one in Europe and one in domestic football.

I'm not advocating two strikers in Europe, I'm saying we should be adaptable.

 

In fairness, Ronny Deila has said as much as well. His inexperience in Europe has hurt us this year, but I think he'll learn quickly, hopefully quickly enough for Inter.

 

Do ye count the crosses that go over our players heads ,to no one and straight to defenders as chances thst we create but don't finish off.

If you weren't to you would see that we dont create many more if any more chances than we did last season when our whole goal threat went through one player and we weren't set up in such an attacking manner that left holes in midfield and defence that spfl teams could exploit to good effect.

While this formation will be a good one in the future when we get the right players for it and they settle into it. Im currently jot buying this chance creation * as a sign if it working.

 

Im at a loss why the biggest club in Scotland and one that has done very well in the CL can not play one style for Europe and one style for the splfplpfllpf.
Are the players so poor they can't play two systems if so how did they do so well in CL in recent years.

Or if it is down to our manager then why is this (young exciting forward thinking manager) refusing to have two systems in place or even be flexible in his thinking.

 

Are you having a laugh?

If you have watched out games recently you would have seen us hit the woodwork plenty of times, Guidetti missing sitters, Johansen shooting straight at the keeper, keepers pulling off miraculous saves, Scepovic missing the target by millimeters.

That's genuine chances, not * aimless crosses thast go nowhere.

You cant legislate for easy misses, sometimes sitters. We have been creating a shitload of chances.

 

On Sunday we ht the woodwork 3 times and scored twice away from home against the team sitting second in table. That's not just crosses flying over peoples heads.