Shame on the SNP

Songs

If the bill was designed to be one-sided and banned solely Irish songs then you have the right to complain, and as would I, but the bill isn't designed to be discriminatory in any way.

The bill is designed to help pave the way to unite the divide, rather than the status quo or dividing it even further. It applies to all Scottish football clubs.

Sure, maybe the bill needs amendments, but we are on the right path. No-one is preventing anyone singing those songs in your own personal time. The rule applies to what happens within the football ground.

 

#FreeTalkCeltic

 

What Is the difference between the boys of the old brigade and Scotland the brave?

 

Songs

Public perception. If I played Boys of the Old Brigade, then it would probably offend or irritate my next door neighbour, who is a die hard Rangers fan. Why would I want to do that? I like my neighbour.

 

So how do you feel about the censorship on talkCeltic? I mean some images are censored and people have been banned for being abusive/racist.

I suppose this is how women of Iran feel?

 

Right I went overboard there I'm always the 1st to admit when I'm wrong but there's a bigger difference here I don't see why you can not support Scottish independence and the repeal of the football bill if you put enough pressure on them they could change it

 

Maybe your green and white jersey offends him would you not change to a blue on to for him to

 

Fair play

You absolutely can support them both. The bill seems too vague for me but I do think it's something that is generally well intentioned.

 

The Offensive Behaviour at Football Act is one-sided.There were already laws in place which prevented sectarian and racist songs on the terraces.Unlucky for our support,none of our songs fell under that category.In their attempt to "even things up" the SNP brought in these ridiculous new laws which criminalise Irish Republican political expression.There are no two ways about it.It's wrong and it needs to be challenged.No amount of good the SNP do elsewhere will make it right until it's fixed.

 

Songs

I don't get offended by football jerseys, and I'm sure he doesn't either.

 

Well why would a song offend you or him is it sectarian or racist in anyway at all if not why would it offend him?

 

We shouldnae sing songs that'll offend Huns who are too * ignorant to know what they're about? Away and * yourself.

 

It's just an attack on us that's the problem I doubt the snp would mind if celtic fans where singing about Scottish independence rather then Irish republicanism there's absolutely no different between the to by all means support the snp even the torys if you want but stand up for your fellow fans

 

Judges have repeatedly laughed these cases out of court,calling them rubbish and 'mince'.

What does that tell you?

 

But but but the papers said it's illegal

 

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There's a big difference.

I wouldn't want to sit in my garden if I could hear The Sash being played. That would be irritating and rather offensive. Most people have a level of respect not to play songs that are deeply intertwined in complicated political matters, just to rile up a rival sports fan next door.

 

It's not well intentioned at all. It's designed to keep people passive and unquestioning of the establishment. They dictate what political views are acceptable, they influence the public perception of those views by throwing around propagandist terms like terrorist (probably the most ridiculous * word in the English language - violence to political ends is fine as long as it's sanctioned?). They criminalise and stigmatise anyone who dares to speak out against them? Iran, it's not, but it's a slippery slope. The British establishment has survived by doing those things well - you can hold up North Korea as the archetypal authoritarian state but really it's just a poor example of that because everyone knows they're being lied to and everyone knows they're having their freedoms stripped away.

If they want to eradicate the hostility surrounding Irish politics in this country, a bit of honesty wouldn't go amiss.

 

So your actually compering the sash to the boys of the old brigade :smiley-laughing002: do you have a problem with Barcelona and there shows of support for Catalonian independence or Atletico Bilbao for there support of the Bastaqe Country should St Pauli not be allowed play football

 

Most people don't sing rebel songs over the fence at their neighbours. :smiley-laughing002:

They may be offensive to some. I'd be interested to know why anyone in this country would be offended by songs about the Irish people's continuing struggle freedom. Particularly if that person uses the username Saor.

 

Woah! The Catalans aren't terrorists.

Armed struggle for freedom pre-1940 = not terrorist
Armed struggle for freedom post-1940 = terrorist (unless you're Nelson Mandela after 2008)