Buying the best of Scotland/ the SPL...

i think its probably because the Scottish teams will hold out for similar paydays from us as we do from the EPL teams (relatively, obviously) and then (and this is the deal breaker) they're going to look for significant sell on %'s too (just like we do). In all, it's not actually that good business for us with our buy to sell plan... whereas if we were to change to a buy to keep plan they'd be perfect for us

 

Why don't we just build a squad that can consistently qualify for Champions League money, rather than * about with risking money on this mass buy/sell tactic. Attempting both has left us in this mess.

Europeans will jump at the move south easier than a home grown player from the likes of Dundee Utd.

We should know homegrown players inside out, right down to their personality, surely far less risk involved.

We've missed out on a lot of talent from this country against the mass of * we;ve ad to wade through to find a Wanyama or VVD.

 

I think this is because, growing up, players from other countries will aspire to play for the biggets team in their league or the Barcas, Reals etc. They would have no real affinity for the club and this would have to be developed.

Where as here in Scotland, it will be an aspiration for a young player to sign for Celtic one day- a dream. And id go as far to say that they will probably have a better understanding of what the club is about. That they would be unlikely to sign and declare the move a stepping stone. To know what it means to play for Celtic.

I agree, it would be far less risk as these players playing within the SPL would have already been established within our league. There would be no added expense to scout, fly, and accomodate these players. And sometimes they would be coming from a league with a totally different style of play- for instance iv got no doubt Miku has plenty of ability, but in Scotland the style just didnt suit. Less time, more physical, maybe more direct.

 

He served in the IDF and posted a poster of praise to the IDF whilst they were bombing civilians I would say that is warmongering. Anyway not the right thread for this subject.

 

I agree with the OP, we have let many good home grown players escape under our nose, whilst we have played lottery bringing in unknown foreign players many of whom have bombed, I can't understand our scouting or signing policy at all to be honest.

Players like Robertson, Dixon, Gauld, Armstrong, Russell,May, Fletcher, would all have added to the fabric of our team over the years, and probably our success too.

 

That, for me, is a mouthwatering prospect whilst operating within our means.

 

So serving compulsive national service makes him a war mongerer? Cool. Why any Celtic fan would have a poor opinion of him because of where he was born and raised is beyond me, pathetic.

 

At the time we were interested in Fletcher WGS who very many of us rated highly, wanted to sign Ched Evans . Evans strung Celtic a long for nearly the whole transfer window . When Celtic finally found out that there was no chance of signing Evans, they turned their attention on Fletcher whose Chairman said that he wouldn't sell Fletcher to Celtic at any price

 

Im sure the reason we didnt get Fletcher was because the board wouldnt give WGS the £4m or so needed to have a bid accepted. Had the biard released this money, i think we would have gone on to win the SPL that season.

Im sure the figure for Ched Evans that was being talked of at the time was £1m-£2m

 

I would imagine that we buy every season with the idea of qualifying consistently for the Champions League . If we bought solely Scottish players they could also jump at a move south . Also some European players don't always jump down south for example big Sammi and Lustig .
Can you blame anyone for jumping South when 55% of the population of Scotland voted to maintain the link.

 

Nope. We were interested in Fletcher and baulked at what hibs wanted from us.

We don't make much additions until our European fate is sealed.

We haven't had many bids for our Scottish players recently. We've looked to sell if we did get rid of them. I have no doubt we could of held onto the decent Scots that have slipped the net.

Your point of the vote is irrelevant. What does keeping the union have to do with players moving to the EPL.

 

Completely untrue. Ched Evans was the target . When Celtic got the message that Evans definitely wasn't coming we made an enquiry about Fletcher. The Hibs chairman told Celtic in no uncertain terms that because Fletcher was not Celtic's first choice , he wouldn't sell him to Celtic at any price.
Just a wee reminder Neil Lennon was a coach at Celtic at that time , when we were trying to buy Evans it must have looked as if the deal was on , because Lennon was quoted as saying Evans was no work in progress, he was the final article .
I wonder how Evan's life would have turned out if he had joined Celtic .

 

Its you thats wide of the mark mate. Lennon didnt take over as Celtic boss until 25th of March 2010 when he was installed as caretaker. Fletcher left in the summer transfer window of 2009 to Burnley. As i said, Gordon Strachan was in charge.

We werent offering enough money. Ched evans was only speculation, we never put in a concrete bid. We did for Fletcher.

What difference to the Hibs chairman would it have made that Fletcher "wasnt their first choice"? your talkin drivel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-Steven-Fletcher-to-beef-up-jaded-attack.html

 

Absolute bollocks about Evans being our first choice and petrie not selling fletcher to us cause he was second choice

He didn't want to sell to another spl club, end of and the rest is history..

 

Not trying to dispute this, you could well be right. where did u read that? i was always under the impression that we just didnt offer enough. Id have been happy if we pushed the boat to secure him.

When you think that he went to Burnley for £3m plus add ons, and we landed Fortune for a snip at £4m...

 

Ulsterscot, you haven't a scooby.

 

You are right the fee was about 2.75 mil.

Now that January we were crying out for CF like Fetcher but didn't get him,we got Willo Flood.
Then the huns
went on to win CL money that vaulted them to secure more CL money that then not only vaulted them to another year of CL money,it also kept the * alive those three years.
Also during that time we were looking at Jelivic but didn't get him.aye the board dropped the * ball,bigtime,for not going after Fletcher in fact they cost us nearly 60 mil.

 

Read it in a few papers years ago..

Petrie didn't want to sell to us, sure it was pretty common knowledge at the time..

Someone on here a bit more savvy might be able to provide some links?

 

I don't know whether are trying to block the sequence of events . Neil Lennon left celtic in the previous summer, he became very depressed down south and wGS took him to Celtic as a coach . He certainly wasn't the boss but was as I said previously a coach at Celtic at time.
As to what difference it was to Hibs Chairman that Fletcher wasn't Celtic's first choice , maybe you need to ask Him . Maybe he thought Celtic were making little of Fletcher's ability .
Perhaps he was following the age old sentiment in Scottish football , allowing Celtic to buy Scottish talent was destroying the league as it meant that Celtic were grabbing all the good footballers and leaving the rest of the league weaker
Rangers on the other hand were known to be strengthening the league by buying from Scottish teams and keeping the money in Scottish Football.
If you don't know the facts, and you have proved that by what you said about Lennon .

 

Yes Petrie was forced to take the 4.4 for Brown and the 2.2 for Thomson:icon_mrgreen: