War it is!

So he's a Brit apologist for not thinking Russia shites rainbows? You really are a space cadet :smiley-laughing002:

And you saying someone comes out with the same * everytime is rather ironic.....

 

Not saying that and of course all governments should be questioned unmercifuly about everything

 

straw man argument.

 

So again no debate offered, just attack the poster bullshit ...

* off ya *!

 

Talk about ISIS then mate. You can't say all Muslims are this or that any more than you can say all Irish are or all Catholics are.

 

And you posting links to Super Vladmir is to do with what exactly? Are Russia involved or are you going to 'follow the money/oil' or 'Russia is not happy about this'....

You've really hurt my feelings.

 

It's not just isis though I'm probably more attacking religion in general then just Islam but Islam is definitely the biggest problem in the world right now regardless if we are the cause of it or not

 

If we are the cause of the problem, how could Islam possibly be the biggest problem

The west is the cause of a lot of radicalization, and generally leaving that region of the world in a complete * mess, with a massive power vacuum that has now been filled by ISIS.

 

most of them problems still happen in our society, and it isn't exactly fair to say all Muslims are like that also I fail to see how carpet bombing them will help solve they problems and help their society develop to the stage where things like that can be fixed p.s arguable the worst government for they problems is Saudi Arabia which just happens to be a massive trading partner for us and the U.S, not to mention they to mention a major arms dealer with us and military partner

 

The only reason Muslims join groups like ISIS is that they are treated like criminals in Britain and the US. This group appears, making all these grand promises to Muslims that they can have a better life. Of course people are going to join it. By the time they find out that they were lied to, it's too late.

ISIS only has power as long as Islam has a reason to hate the West. A bombing campaign will kill thousands of innocent people, and the friends and family of those murdered will sign up to ISIS in their millions.

ISIS rely on hatred; don't create more reasons for the people of Iraq to hate the West. The have far too many already.

 

Thats sound then, just you keep believing that the west is going BACK into the middle east to spread Dumocracy and save everyone from the bad guys, and I,ll keep believing its all about a much wider geoplitical war that directly involves oil/resources and more importantly what currency these commodities are traded in...

We,ll see who,s proved right in time

 

Are the Saudis not funding them?

 

I'm not saying I support the west in anyway just sayin there not all innocent oppressed people and agree with you on carpet bombing and Saudi Arabia American only likes democracy when they get a winner they like

 

Sorry mate that makes no sense. If 'we' created it(no sure who we is so 'll assume Dubs) but if the dubs created it how can they be the cause of it?

 

Right now it's the biggest problem the west should * off let other Arab countrys do it because if we don't where just staying in this cycle

 

Mostly Saudi and Qatari money, coming into Syria/ISIS via Turkey and Jordan....

 

I'm saying persecution by Muslims isn't confined to groups like isis or Al qeida it's can be general populations in Arab countrys as well and I'm sayin the west is obviously the main cause of the radicalization of Islam. At the start I was just making the point that Muslims prosecute lots of people to

 

What is the biggest problem in the world now? Islam? Religion in general? Wars aren't caused by Religion.

 

And the point I am making is no they don't. No more than Catholics or Protestants do.

 

Radical Islam is definitely the most important thing right now and needs to be eradicated before it grows anymore I'm not anti-Muslim I want to see peace there and with radical Islam it won't happen