The Ronny Deila Thread

I've reset the poll, giving us a chance to see where most of us stand after the cup exit and recent games in the league.

 

He isn't though is he as far as i can see its constantly in the media to get rid of both but i could be wrong

 

I'd sack him regardless and I would do it now I want to see us in the champions league next year

 

In relation to the new poll question, I'd personally find it difficult to back the idea of sacking a manager who has just won the double.

What kind of message would that send?

 

I am guilty of forgetting that Ronny is only 40 years old. That is a baby in the world of football management. So he obviously has plenty of time on his side and therefore plenty of potential to improve as a manager. On that basis, I can see why some people believe we should stick by him for a while longer.

The signs of learning lessons in defeat and growing as a manager aren't really there so far though, in my opinion. He has his formation, he has his tactics, and he seems to stick to them. Plan B is to try plan A again. I feel like Neil Lennon was lot quicker to learn on the job than Ronny has been. I also think Neily was a lot more flexible in his approach to formations and tactics, something that served him well. Perhaps something Ronny could learn from. If I could start to see some signs of that growth and flexibility in him then it would encourage me to get back on board the Deila bus.

 

I would have done it a few weeks back mate but we know its not happening now, i just don't trust him to try and get us into the champions league yes it would seem harsh and maybe thats what the board are playing at, im not trying to make comparisons but Madrid have sacked managers that have won leagues and even champions leagues if it isn't working no manager should be beyond reproach no matter what they win

 

Neil was also working with a backroom staff that he had known for years, and at a club where he was accustomed to being, so he was used to the pressure.

That's not an excuse for Deila, or explaining away Lennon's success by the way, it's just a few factors that we maybe have to take into account.

If I were in charge of the club I'd have a sit down with Deila and ask him to be honest about what he needs for the season ahead. I'd likely look to offload both Collins and Kennedy and give Deila free reign to bring in whoever he wants, as that may make him comfortable in the job.

I know he was happy to work with Collins and Kennedy, but he didn't know either of them beforehand, and Collins has shown himself to be a walloper in previous coaching positions.

Basically, something has to change if Deila is going to make this work.

 

He should have been shown the door after the embarrassment in the UEFA cup.I think it's a worse message that he didn't get the road after finishing bottom of that group

 

Double or not I'd sack him performances haven't been good enough

 

Ronny Deila was a vastly more experienced manager though. He's been a manager for 8 years no. Lenny came in a rookie, Ronny should know better by this stage.

 

Not at a club the size of ours though. He's spent all of his career in the Norwegian league, hasn't he?

Again, this isn't me looking to make excuses, as he's not done well enough. I'm just looking at ways we can move on if the board aren't getting rid of him.

 

Plus Lennon turned round that Mowbray team and put a good run of results together to atleast finish the season with a bit of dignity

 

Which would be an ideal time to learn the basics of management, it's the basics he's getting wrong.

 

I would sack him regardless , I'm not confident he will lead this side into the CL cannot afford to lose another CL Campaign and he's not adaptable. Yet again I don't think this is entirely his fault. The board must take the blame!

 

If he didn't even know the basics of management then surely he wouldn't have succeeded as he did in Norway though?

He obviously did something right at Strømsgodset, didn't he? Unless that was a fluke and he's really an imposter?

 

I was so chuffed when we signed Ronny. A change of direction from The Board. Fresh new ideas and the way to go.

Rightly or wrongly, I judge Ronny on how we fair in Europe. So even if we win the double, it's a "No".

Time and time again, under Ronny's leadership we have failed in Europe....and then go and do the same thing again in the next match. However what really alarmed me was when he openly admitted that he binned the DVD of the 1st Leg Malmo and didn't review it with the Team on the basis of a "1 off" and wouldn't happen again, but it did. Just how can players or anyone in any walk of like develop if they don't learn from their mistakes? Ronny, it's either supreme confidence or supreme arrogange or just downright stupidity. Whichever....not good enough.

Oh, and an observation. For those who watched midweek Youths vs Valencia. We're 1-0 up. They have a man sent off. We sit back, leave gaps and lose.....just like the 1st team. Ronny's way of doing things runs through the Club and as nice a man as he appears, isn't the man to lead us into Europe. Sorry but out.

 

I have heard of a study done in the UK were they asked a selection of people what they thought the greatest invention of all time was. The answer was not the wheel, the combustion engine, or the freezer. The answer was the air conditioner. This seems like an odd choice for the UK but the study was done in one of the hottest days in recorded history. The subjects were influenced by this and confirmation bias destroyed the survey.

On a day when he published an article exposing his vulnerability I would imagine some people will vote perhaps a little kinder than they would have last week. I still expect the vast majority to want him out immediately though.

 

You don't see the irony in that do you?:smiley-laughing002:

 

Can you explain it to me? I have kept a consistent stance on this issue for a long time. Perhaps you should do more reading on confirmation bias.

 

It's works the same way for people wanting him gone after a few bad results, like Sutton & Hartson they slagged him half way through his first season then ate humble pie and were back on board, now they want him gone again. Many people reacted badly to the last few defeats understandably and wanted him gone, but now have calmed down and can look on it objectively instead of using the anger to make up their mind.
We know you've been consistent since every post you make is the same rhetorical *.