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The Ronny Deila Thread

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Glasgow_Bhoy88, Jun 6, 2014.

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  1. Liam Scales

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    He's also lost plenty. What does that define him as?

    I hope he starts being a winner when we come up against teams that aren't equal to or better than us because we seem to lose them consistently.

    Not really a winning thing to do. Maybe he's a winner up until it gets to hard then?
     
  2. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Might be an honest account in the article, but it does help to confirm that maybe the job is too big for him.

    If a game isn't going our way he looks like a rabbit in headlights and his tactically naivety and the poor response he gets from our players is really evident.

    I really hope the only reason he's not been dismissed yet, is because we are exploring all possibilities for his successor.

    Doubt it though..
     
  3. og1

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    Nice guy or not he lacks an analytical mind and gives the impression that sticking to what he knows with extra positive thinking thrown in will fix our problems. I honestly think thats how it is, a man of faith.

    If he was capable of identifying and fixing a problem then I could see why people would back him. He has been here for 20 months and the same problems remain. He either cant see or is not capable of fixing the problems, both of which are red cards.

    The days of piggybacking on Lennon's founs are over. Since he came in our successful signings have stopped and we have gone backwards at a rate that even alarms me, not because of Deila but because how our board have not stepped in to end this nightmare yet.

    The only reasons I see him still here right now is that:

    1- they are * it that sacking him will put us in transition and put the league in jeopardy

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    2- the most likely reason is that Lawwell will not want to hire a manager right now in an SOS call because it gives all the power in negotiations to the manager. I honestly think this is the case. I honestly think that our chief executive is putting his pride and reputation before the best interests of the club. Deila is gone at the end of the season no matter what. Hiring a lapdog will be easier at the end of the season.
     
  4. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    He certainly managed our expectations..
     
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    I feel for him and i think theres more to poor form than just coaching and tactics. Possible interferrance from upstairs?
     
  6. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    That was a depressing read , tend to forget he is here basically on his own and even seeing his kids is a rare ish occurrence for him. Hopefully people will, after reading that, at least lay of the personal attacks although that's doubtful :52:
     
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    I agree ronny is no longer the man to manage celtic he does look out of his depth.
    How many of that Leicester team would come here for what we pay....none i would guess.

    Its ok building a team of players out of contract if you have the wage structure to get the better ones.

    We have had plenty of cheap crap.:smiley-laughing002:
     
  8. Mr. Slippyfist

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    I want to give him a hug now :(
     
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    Yes, shock horror, man works away from home doesn't see his kids as much as he would like........... You hear of that happening to anyone else eh ?

    Resign and you can spend as much time with your family as you like mate. The choice is yours. Doesn't change my opinion on whether he stays or not.
     
  10. Dáibhí

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    Yeah, it happens to other guys on less money, but it doesn't mean you can't show some * compassion, does it?
     
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    Defend Ronny all you like, base it on football metrics though. When you start going into the territory of emotional manipulation just stop. If that applies to Deila it applies to every player past, present and future, and every supporter.

    Humanizing him and saying he misses he family, he feels bad etc is totally irrelevant. He has a job to do and his personal life is none of our business nor should it be used in a sort of "give him a break" sort of way. Is he cutting it? No. Until he does (which he wont) he is fair game for criticism. In fact making excuses for criticism is a * loser mentality anyway. If he did what he was supposed to do properly he would not be criticized simple as that.
     
  12. Liam Scales

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    Just because it happens to other people doesn't mean you can't emphatise. Has anycunt said it effects him staying in the job or not? Of course they * haven't because that would be * daft.
     
  13. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Aye its a fact of life for many however they don't attract the same level of personal abuse do they ?
     
  14. Dáibhí

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    And it's the personal abuse that doesn't really sit easy with me to be honest.

    Criticise his tactical choices in a game? His choice of a starting line-up? His substitutions? His signings? Fair enough.

    Personal stuff coming from so-called Celtic fans? That's not right.

    And before any * mentions my criticism of Boyd, I was critical of his ability as a public speaker, a commentator, his ability to put together his sentences fluidly enough for television.

    I said that, like most of us, he's * at that! :smiley-laughing002:
     
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    There's a difference between criticism and abuse.

    'Humanising' him. He is a * human you *.

    I don't think he's good enough for this job and he shouldn't be here. Doesn't mean he deserves personal abuse and that we can't empathise with him.
     
  16. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    Yea we don't want to 'HUMANISE HIM' * that for a carry on huh.
    You really are a special case aren't you. You have no problems slaughtering him for everything, yet should someone quote you , you go running off moaning about it, the big boys are taking the * boohoo :55:
     
  17. Dáibhí

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    It doesn't mean that we can't support him either, while he's here and trying to do the job he should have the support of the fans.

    A lot of * would do well the remember that.
     
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    Can you support him when you actively want him out of a job? I always support us to win, always want us to do well but I think it's too much for him. I don't think that can be classed as supporting him.

    Wouldn't stoop as low as to personally abuse him. Apart from the occasional frustrated outburst in 90 minutes, I've been known to shout get a * sub on ya * :56:
     
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    I do support him, and wouldn't even say that I actually want him out of the job. I go into every game hoping we get a good win and kick on from there, which would mean him staying in the job.

    If he pushes on, wins the league, maybe wins the cup, and is still here for the Champions League qualifiers in the summer I'll still be behind him.

    Basically, until the day comes when he's given the bullet, I'll support him. I'll be critical of his choices when I feel the need to, but I'll support him.
     
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    Well what sort of abuse is he getting? Being called a clown or a loser? These are direct criticisms at his failure on a professional level. Humanizing a person because of their professional failure is manipulation and propaganda 101. Sob stories and trying to create empathy for the man in an attempt to cull valid criticism for him making a balls of the job is what is going on here. If this applies to Deila then we can never ever call a player * even if he is. There has to be balance. He deserves criticism simple as that.