The Ronny Deila Thread

I don't see any improvement in the team since he took over. One dimensional, clueless and a blind spot for guys like Armstrong and Ambrose.

 

I've always suspected the club employ as PR company to come onto forums and spout the company line. Might be wrong but that's what I think.

 

Absolutely spot on . Where we go from here i really dont know- the board have made a * with deila. Hes way out of his depth he really is, ive never seen such a bloated celtic squad with a manager who has no idea how to utilise his best players.

 

White coat for Ronnie? This may be on the mark, they say one of the first signs of madness is to keep doing the same thing over and over agin!! Let us start with one up top as the benchmark here!

 

Seems to be a lot of negativity on here regarding Ronny. You'd almost think other teams had planted people to cause disharmony.

Anyway the basic question still stands, who is capable of replacing him and can be afford him? Will the new guy be willing to work within our budget?

If not then just give our manager till the start of next season.

 

We still have a Double to play for. Aberdeen are hanging on in, just about, with a League challenge. Sacking the manager at such a crucial stage in the season would be absolute madness.

He has got until the end of the season to deliver improved performances on a consistent basis and nothing will happen until then, at the earliest.

 

I still have faith in Ronny. Duno why but I dont want him sacked.

Hes not the problem imo.

 

If he fails the again next season just repeat this question.

We could also apply the same criteria to our playing staff and never buy players on the off chance they might be worse.

 

A reason not to sack Ronnie:smiley-laughing002:

 

Surely you can see how impossible that question is to answer?

We have no idea how much we can afford to pay a new manager.

We have no idea how much interest we would have from outside candidates.

We have no idea what would be a factor in those candidates decision making process.

We have a ridiculously small knowledge of the overall 'managerial market'.

The idea that fans should be able to pull a name out of a hat is just daft imo. However the notion that no one in the entire world within our reach could do a better job than Deila is doing is just plain wrong.

 

The League and 1 Cup is an acceptable return imo. The EL outcome was disappointing but there are small margins at that level that made the difference in a number of those games. Yesterday we had two important players missing, Simunovic in particular. Then we had to play 80 minutes with 10 men.

I am not trying to make excuses, I just genuinely believe it is better to give Ronny 1 more crack at the CL than it is to create the upheaval and uncertainty of trying to find a new manager who is willing to work with the circumstances of how Celtic (have) to operate.

 

I think you missed the slightly rhetorical? is that the correct word? nature of my questions.

Everyone is saying sack him without having a notion of who to replace him. Some people do have an idea of what we're able to afford. £1m would be the most for a manager as that is what Lenny was on. Ronny is on £300,000 apparently.

Of course there will be quite a few people on this planet who could do a better job that Ronny for the same price. They would be quite unknown entities at this moment though because anyone with such proven talent would cost at least the same amount.

There are plenty of managers who we couldn't afford who could do a better job that Ronny. But that's just the problem I'm pointing out, we can't afford what people seem to be demanding. We're having to take risks.

 

Reasons to keep RD
After losing to Malmo we are still in Europe and we have the chance of a treble
December.... we still have a treble to play for he will achieve what very few have previously
Febuary... we still have a double and might have work to do to win the league

Roll on July when we will be back in contention for the CL last 16 and the treble is back on again

 

I wish I had your confidence !

 

I agree with this.

I think unless a manager is terrible I mean not winning the league terrible, they should be given until the CL qualifiers before replacing them. It also means the new manager has a whole season to get his team together before being judged in the CL.

Of course there will be exceptions to that but generally speaking, if we're getting rid of Ronny it should after the CL.

I think there are quite a few fans who think he should just get till the end of the season. I don't know why the end of the season, what would we be sacking him for if he won a double? Maybe just his previous two seasons?

 

Truly incredible how much Lawwell has managed to dull down the expectations that you believe Deila's performance has been adequate so far.

We cannot afford to let this guy have another crack at it, as he shown on numerous occasions now what the outcome will be. 0 wins in the EL group, what makes you confident he'll have us CL participants in 6 months time?

 

Ronny is a classic case of 'forward thinking'. He looks ahead and believes that with his hard work, phylosophy and principles he can achieve his and the Club's goals. He doesn't look back. He sees no point in doing that,e.g. when he publicly stated after the 1st leg vs Malmo that there was no point in looking at that game with the players, because it was a one-off, that the players wouldn't play like that again and therefore nothing would be gained by going over it. Outcome- we did the same thing again in Malmo.

He is firm in his belief that 4-2-3-1 is the way to play the game. He is inflexible. Witness yesterday when Efe got sent off. He took off McGregor, who has been the engine room of recent displays and effectively went 4-2-2-1 with the 2-2 merging into a 4. He could have gone with a back 3 with Biton dropping back and Sviat coming on. He could have gone with a back 4 as he did and Armstrong coming off, leaving Biton as the DM having a midfield of "runners" - GMS, McG and Johansen. He could have taken Griff off, brought on Forrest with him as the "false CF", so having 4 runners - we weren't going to play long balls to a "holding CF" anyway.

I and others have posted before that we allow the opposition in the SPFL the same opportunities as we give when we play in Europe and we're not punished because of the standard of opposition in the SPFL. nothing has changed.

The problem I have at the moment is that, if the multitudes on here, in KDS and TV pundits can see it, someone at the top can't or can but like Ronny, believe it will come good in the end. Well, I don't believe it will. We are entrenched in the way we play with a squad, let's face it, few other teams want - transfer window and no one has come in for our players....I believe Johansen/Villa was a hyped up PR stunt by the Club to get us thinking other Clubs valued our talent. We may/may not win the League ...I don't think Aberdeen will get a better chance to be Champions than this year...but if we do, we won't qualify for the CL Groups because we will continue to give chances to better opposition who will stuff us.

It's like watching a high speed car crash in slow motion and you can do little to avoid it because someone else has control of the car.....and they shouldn't be allowed to drive at high speeds.

 

Wednesday could be the biggest game of his managerial career, lose and Aberdeen could have to momentum, win and we could steady the ship, win and play aberdeen off the park, and sunday may go down as a blip.

Still supportive of ronny but struggling to see progression atm. I feel he should have (if allowed) brought in some of his own back room staff instead of collins as assistant manager for example, might be a good coach but doesnt have the strong (john robertson type) personality imo. Look at the top managers, they all have the good cop bad cop staff (clough & taylor), we have the chuckle brothers.

If ronny can turn the support around from here, he will become a legend....

 

It simply isn't anyones job on this forum to come up with ideas of who to replace him with. Nobody here has the tools to do it because nobody knows what we can offer, what others want etc.

Every change has an element of risk to it, wether we spend £10m on that change or £100k. We both agree though that we could definitely be getting more for our money than we currently are, I'm not quite sure we could get dramatically less tbh.

 

Surely the board realise that Ronny is costing us £10m a year at least, so trying to save a few hundred grand is a false economy.
If we pay £2m for a manager and make the CL group stages we'll be quids in.

I don't like the idea of changing the manager at this stage, but I like even less the thought of Ronny taking us into another CL campaign. We don't want to be bringing in a new manager in the summer. So it's bin Ronny now or give him another shot at the CL.

I'd say binning him is the best option.